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Old 10-19-2017, 11:57 AM   #331
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which color sounds the best?

 
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Old 10-19-2017, 01:33 PM   #332
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I'm enjoying the music, but I'm massively struggling with the lyrics. Half the time it's hard to follow what he is singing about, or even understand it under the production. That and the mumbled vowel approach make Ogilala a frustrating listen.

Off to listen to Mark Kozelek instead.
It helps that lyrics are included with the CD and vinyl. That said, a lot of the vocabulary is almost old-english and not that easy to grasp casually.

 
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Old 10-19-2017, 01:50 PM   #333
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i love that aspect of his writing so so much

 
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Old 10-19-2017, 01:51 PM   #334
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Is love a fool
A brackish goad?
Protected like
A lilac cove
Becomes by the breath of the sun
Denuded and diffused

 
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Old 10-19-2017, 01:52 PM   #335
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which color sounds the best?
PURPLE VICTORIAN HOUSE PAINTERS

 
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Old 10-19-2017, 01:53 PM   #336
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I guess you are older now. So take yourself as you are and don´t blame billy for his lyrics. It´s how you look at it. I guess you aren´t a frustrated teenager anymore - so take it easy
what the fuck, brothahi4L

can you not find the right key on yr keyboard or something

 
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Old 10-19-2017, 01:54 PM   #337
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brotha '´' hi4L

 
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Old 10-20-2017, 07:52 PM   #338
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My thoughts on the new album. 1-5 stars (5 being best):

Overall, decent album. A lot better than MTAE. I hated almost every song on that album, and only barely tolerated "Run to Me". Ogilala gives me hope. Really liked Aeronaut - the strings brought me back to the Mellon Collie era. Also, some of the dreamy melodies in Spaniards really felt like old SP.
  • Zowie - 3 stars

  • Processional (Ft.*James*Iha) - 2.5 stars (sadly, since James Iha is the man, I expected more - wtf. This was really a 2 star song but I upped it by half a star, because fuck it, it's James Iha - ).

  • The Spaniards - 3.5 stars

  • Aeronaut - 4 stars (would have been 4.5 stars if not for the repetition of "lovers mourn for me" at the end of the song)

  • The Long Goodbye - 3 stars

  • Half-Life of an Autodidact - 2 stars

  • Amarinthine - 1 stars (Billy, please don't ever write this kind of song again. awful.)

  • Antietam - 1.5 stars ( ugh - similar reaction to Amarinthine).

  • Mandarynne - 3 stars

  • Shiloh - 2 stars

  • Archer - 3 stars

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Old 10-20-2017, 09:35 PM   #339
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anybody believe this is a 3-star album then?

 
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Old 10-21-2017, 12:56 AM   #340
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NOBODY believes that, myosis

NOBODY

 
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Old 10-21-2017, 02:11 AM   #341
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No review from Pitchfork this time.

Guess they didn't get paid.

 
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Old 10-21-2017, 11:22 AM   #342
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It helps that lyrics are included with the CD and vinyl. That said, a lot of the vocabulary is almost old-english and not that easy to grasp casually.
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Old 10-24-2017, 10:49 AM   #343
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Yes it's a Double-LP. Same content, but with 45 speed. For less groove noise. The audiophile version, available only in the U.K., the mecca of sad vinyl freaks...

https://www.whatrecords.co.uk/items/78969.htm
today i had a look for this double lp, but i can't find it anywhere.
does it even exist?

 
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Old 10-24-2017, 12:49 PM   #344
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How many copies did Ogilala sell, to the nearest digit?

 
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Old 10-24-2017, 01:17 PM   #345
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Who knows, but it hit the dizzying heights of 183 in the US Billboard

 
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Old 10-24-2017, 02:03 PM   #346
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today i had a look for this double lp, but i can't find it anywhere.
does it even exist?
Have just sent an E-Mail asking if the DLP hasn't been released or immediately sold out.
"WHAT RECORDS??" might be the typical answer...
https://www.whatrecords.co.uk/contact.asp

On AMAZON UK it has never been listed.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ogilala-VIN...8865002&sr=8-1

 
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Old 10-24-2017, 02:20 PM   #347
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So we're all still using this thread to talk about the album because none of us felt like buying it, right?

 
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Old 10-24-2017, 02:41 PM   #348
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So we're all still using this thread to talk about the album because none of us felt like buying it, right?
I bought a copy, because well, it's a step in the right direction. I'm surprised as well.

 
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Old 10-24-2017, 02:44 PM   #349
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So we're all still using this thread to talk about the album because none of us felt like buying it, right?
I hear it daily on National Pubic Radio.
I'm waiting for the double vinyl release. It will be more collectible than WPC's edition, immidiate sell out.

And I'll buy JIMMY's new record.

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Old 10-24-2017, 02:44 PM   #350
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i'm waiting for the appearance of the cd in the one-dollar bin, in a week or three.

 
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Old 10-24-2017, 04:43 PM   #351
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Have just sent an E-Mail asking if the DLP hasn't been released or immediately sold out.
"WHAT RECORDS??" might be the typical answer...
https://www.whatrecords.co.uk/contact.asp

On AMAZON UK it has never been listed.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ogilala-VIN...8865002&sr=8-1
Got a QUICK answer:

"Currently unavailable.

Thank you for your enquiry.

Cheers

Tim"

So, there's still hope...

 
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Old 10-24-2017, 07:44 PM   #352
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which color sounds the best?


brown.

 
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Old 10-25-2017, 04:05 PM   #353
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http://www.vintagevinylnews.com/2017...us-albums.html

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Also low is Ogilala by Billy Corgan (as William Patrick Corgan). The Smashing Pumpkins lead released his first solo album, TheFutureEmbrace, in 2005, giving him a number 31 album. Ogilala was only able to garner number 183 in its first week.

 
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Old 10-26-2017, 12:50 AM   #354
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Also low is Ogilala by Billy Corgan (as William Patrick Corgan). The Smashing Pumpkins lead released his first solo album, TheFutureEmbrace, in 2005, giving him a number 31 album. Ogilala was only able to garner number 183 in its first week.

Oh no! There goes little Auggie Jupp's college fund!

 
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Old 10-26-2017, 02:59 AM   #355
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No review from Pitchfork this time.

Guess they didn't get paid.
https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums...organ-ogilala/

 
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Old 10-26-2017, 06:41 AM   #356
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The vocals are really the issue. While his voice is certainly stronger, and he doesn't need to scream to reach the high notes, I don't really like the sound it makes. It's not what I'd like to hear from Billy Corgan; too much vibrato and too many too-high notes (which he reaches, I just don't like them). If he'd made 10 songs singing them like "Soothe" or "To Sheila", then I'd be on for it.

That prevents me from getting into the songs. Pity, as I'm sure musically they are nice.

As for a new SP album, he seems to be pretty conscious about what constitutes the "old sound" and has made mention of how they used to layer the vocals. He did say he wished to record an album of the old style with the old members. So hopefully the vocals will be more SD, less Zeitgeist.

 
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Old 10-26-2017, 07:05 AM   #357
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The Pitchfork review brings up some fair points, even if I think it's a more agreeable album than they do. That "Cain isn't able" lyric really is a clanger.

Weird that they hate on Zeitgeist and seem to enjoy Monuments!

 
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Old 10-26-2017, 08:44 AM   #358
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passive pleasantness

 
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Old 10-26-2017, 09:11 AM   #359
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"Records like Mellon Collie showed that if you bake a sour apple with enough sugar, cinnamon, and butter, you can create something truly succulent. Rubin, bizarrely, seems to believe fans only want the apple, not the crumble."

Uh... Hmmm...

 
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Old 10-26-2017, 10:36 AM   #360
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The Pitchfork review brings up some fair points, even if I think it's a more agreeable album than they do. That "Cain isn't able" lyric really is a clanger.

Weird that they hate on Zeitgeist and seem to enjoy Monuments!
how is it weird that journo A gave Zeitgeist a 4.9, journo B reviewed Monuments with a 6, and this one gave Ogi a (fair, to me) 5.7?

 
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