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Old 03-04-2015, 10:20 PM   #1
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that fact that this has never been played live is fucking criminal

 
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Old 03-04-2015, 10:27 PM   #2
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This song is better than most of the songs on Machina. It's definitely a strong start to MII, and one of several of my favourite MII songs.

 
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Old 03-04-2015, 10:28 PM   #3
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its better than anything on the first machina except for maybe SIYL

 
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Old 03-04-2015, 10:39 PM   #4
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Amazing song and God I hope they do it justice on the reissue. I'd venture to say that when the guitar solo begins is one of the most powerful moments of any Pumpkins song. But I could be intoxicated a bit.

 
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Old 03-04-2015, 11:51 PM   #5
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It sounds like a band breaking up, or something...

 
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Old 03-05-2015, 12:05 AM   #6
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I like the synthy sounds. They sound like lil' bits of sunlight over the horizon.

Like dawn.

 
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Old 03-05-2015, 12:16 AM   #7
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It sounds like a band breaking up, or something...
i think the opposite

sounds like the start (dawn if you will er herhe) of something new

never actually thought about which m2 have or haven't been played live

vanity?

 
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Old 03-05-2015, 01:30 AM   #8
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love this song.

 
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Old 03-05-2015, 02:14 AM   #9
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*appreciates*

 
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Old 03-05-2015, 03:40 AM   #10
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Love that song...has Billy ever played it live actually?

 
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Old 03-05-2015, 03:48 AM   #11
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I agree. It's a really great song. The guitar sound is so sublime, especially in combination with the synth

 
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Old 03-05-2015, 04:06 AM   #12
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FUCK... Can't WAIT for the Machina reissues.

 
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Old 03-05-2015, 05:12 AM   #13
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i think the opposite

sounds like the start (dawn if you will er herhe) of something new

never actually thought about which m2 have or haven't been played live

vanity?
Let's see, there's..

Glass
Cash Car Star
Speed Kills
If There Is a God
Dross
Go (I think only once at final Metro show)
Let Me Give the World to You
Home

and Lucky 13 and In My Body were played in 2007

 
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Old 03-05-2015, 09:36 AM   #14
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i think the opposite

sounds like the start (dawn if you will er herhe) of something new

never actually thought about which m2 have or haven't been played live

vanity?
Interesting.

To me it's more like when you walk at early dawn after being up all night instead of getting up at early dawn, if that makes any sense.

 
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Old 03-05-2015, 10:09 AM   #15
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slow dawn is incredible. and then vanity... good lord god.

and i agree with labelle. song sounds like you've been up on drugs all night and are watching the sunrise.

 
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Old 03-05-2015, 10:10 AM   #16
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Interesting.

To me it's more like when you walk at early dawn after being up all night instead of getting up at early dawn, if that makes any sense.
yes totally

 
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Old 03-05-2015, 10:13 AM   #17
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Let's see, there's..

Glass
Cash Car Star
Speed Kills
If There Is a God
Dross
Go (I think only once at final Metro show)
Let Me Give the World to You
Home

and Lucky 13 and In My Body were played in 2007
What about "Real Love"?

 
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Old 03-05-2015, 10:22 AM   #18
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Best Machina 2 song along with Vanity and Try.

 
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Old 03-05-2015, 10:26 AM   #19
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Interesting.

To me it's more like when you walk at early dawn after being up all night instead of getting up at early dawn, if that makes any sense.
yes.
midnight people, and "I'm gonna run the slow dawn awake"

I love this song.

 
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Old 03-05-2015, 10:53 AM   #20
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The song still gives me goosebumps. The version of the song I had on MP3, so long ago, was from one of the first vinyl rips that had a very bad skip right in the solo. I listened to it so many times that now I expect the skip when I listen to the cleaner copies that are in circulation.

On that note, Machina II was the first album I ever burned to CD.


 
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Old 03-05-2015, 11:07 AM   #21
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I remember discovering that mii existed then the excitement of downloading the songs then listening first to slow dawn...

Excellent tune. I agree with the "up all night/going for a walk" feelings. Had this in my headphones for many groggy half drunken 5 AM walks across campus

 
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Old 03-05-2015, 11:14 AM   #22
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The song still gives me goosebumps. The version of the song I had on MP3, so long ago, was from one of the first vinyl rips that had a very bad skip right in the solo. I listened to it so many times that now I expect the skip when I listen to the cleaner copies that are in circulation.
Does anyone have the rip where the intro to Here's to the Atom Bomb has a really bad skip? It was the first version of Machina II I downloaded from Napster, and it's nostalgic as hell. I wish I still had it.

 
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Old 03-05-2015, 11:52 AM   #23
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Probably the best Machina song. Not really sure why, but the atmosphere of the song is crazy great. Machina II has this really cool late night, chilling out, floating kind of vibe. In My Body, for example.

 
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Old 03-05-2015, 12:11 PM   #24
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Interesting.

To me it's more like when you walk at early dawn after being up all night instead of getting up at early dawn, if that makes any sense.
Yes

I used to work a night shift job and I would listened to pumpkins all night and get off at 7 am.

Slow Dawn captured that feel.

 
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Old 03-05-2015, 12:27 PM   #25
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Home
In My Body were played in 2007
wowsers

to the youtube cars, gentlemen!

 
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Old 03-05-2015, 05:55 PM   #26
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Let's see, there's..

Glass
Cash Car Star
Speed Kills
If There Is a God
Dross
Go (I think only once at final Metro show)
Let Me Give the World to You
Home

and Lucky 13 and In My Body were played in 2007

vanity was supposedly soundchecked at one of the euro 2000 shows (either toulouse or stockholm), can't remember which

if there is a god has been played a bunch of times obviously

and le deux machina pops up during live versions of glass and the ghost children from september to november 2000, as well as one standalone performance on 2/19/00

 
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Old 03-05-2015, 08:05 PM   #27
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Damn fine guitar solo on that one there ayuh

 
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Old 03-05-2015, 08:08 PM   #28
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vanity was supposedly soundchecked at one of the euro 2000 shows (either toulouse or stockholm), can't remember which
o ya i think i mighta actually heard this

so torn between what's a dream & what's reality these days

 
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Old 03-06-2015, 12:50 PM   #29
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song sounds like you've been up on drugs all night and are watching the sunrise.
That pretty much nails it. Lyrics give imagery of someone watching the early rush of commuters running to day jobs, and being detached from the whole 9-5 experience. Wouldn't be surprised if that was exactly what happened to prompt Bill writing the song.

In my Body was great in 2007. I hope the reissue version brings that high guitar line out somehow, thought it really added an extra punch to the song.

 
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Old 03-06-2015, 01:35 PM   #30
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the guitars on slow dawn (and the rest of machina II) are what make this song so good. billy's got a great shoegazey/metal sound to songs like speed kills and saturnine. and the solos are fantastic. god i love this album.

 
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