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12-27-2014, 05:41 AM | #61 |
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I think he sound really good on it that's why I wondering what era it was. M2 vocals were fantastic in general
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12-27-2014, 05:43 AM | #62 |
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M2 Vocals are nice, but on Untitled it starts to sound all grating and more like the Zeitgeist vocals.
It might just be that he isn't using any vocal processor effects or something. |
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12-27-2014, 07:31 AM | #63 |
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12-27-2014, 08:31 AM | #64 |
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Might as well ask how I can like The Fall and also SP
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12-27-2014, 09:25 AM | #65 |
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I've always loved that wall of static effect on the forever waiting part too! I wish he would of used it more often. I imagine white spider and real love will sound similar once they're cleaned up for the reissue
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12-27-2014, 09:57 AM | #66 |
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12-27-2014, 10:59 AM | #67 |
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12-27-2014, 11:00 AM | #68 |
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Let's blindly speculate.
If only we had the tools or the the technology to look this information up on short notice... Doubt that will be available in our lifetime though your best bet is the library |
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12-27-2014, 11:01 AM | #69 |
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The thing about real love though is that I get what he was trying to do. It's just that he went way way way overboard. I think he was spot on with everlasting gaze and the "fuzz" in the chorus is both brilliant and beautiful and a fantastic way of opening up the chorus from the growling guitars of the verses. (That's something I love about the corgan; how he lets chorus' fly after a restrained verse- ie: ava adore, pug, teitbite, tonight tonight, disarm, etc.) I think if he had pulled the fuzz back to everlasting gaze level, the song would be pretty perfect.
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12-27-2014, 12:56 PM | #70 | ||
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12-27-2014, 01:01 PM | #71 | |
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12-27-2014, 01:04 PM | #72 |
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does Zwan count itt? the entire album, that's the "worst" thing that was done to songs in my book. and cougaring great songs throughout his career, no matter under what banner. Like leaving Mini off TFE.
I wonder how many good songs were left off MTAE - Burnt Orange-Black was cougared, yet Run2Me and Anti-Hero made the list. |
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12-27-2014, 01:28 PM | #73 | |
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12-27-2014, 01:50 PM | #74 |
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The one thing I don't like about "Machina 2" that some mentioned is not what Billy did or didn't do in the studio, it's the fact that it was leaked from pretty shitty vinyl rip sources...
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12-27-2014, 02:33 PM | #75 |
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Real Love still sounds pretty bad on Rotten Apples
It's not just the vinyl sounce |
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12-27-2014, 03:56 PM | #76 |
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12-27-2014, 08:57 PM | #77 |
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Never been a big fan of "Real Love" myself, but in that interview Jimmy did in Ireland a few months back he mentioned it being his favorite Smashing Pumpkins song...
I have a copy of the "Untitled" single somewhere in my house. It has a slightly less impressive alternate version of "Age of Innocence" and the version of "Try" that's on Machina II. |
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12-27-2014, 08:58 PM | #78 |
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Owata
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12-27-2014, 08:58 PM | #79 |
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that version of 'try' is so freaking good
re:@madcap |
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12-27-2014, 10:01 PM | #80 |
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the pastichio medley
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12-27-2014, 10:36 PM | #81 |
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I still think Real Love sounds perfect as is
A version without the fuzz would still be nice but I like the direction they took with M2's production |
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12-27-2014, 10:39 PM | #82 |
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Does someone have like their definitive version of what a Machina double album should have been that I can listen to?
I'm sure this has been done a thousand times If I made one it would just be my favorite tracks because I never cared about the concept |
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12-27-2014, 11:39 PM | #83 |
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12-28-2014, 12:24 AM | #84 |
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12-28-2014, 12:27 AM | #85 |
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Yeah I really couldn't care less about the Machina story
Just want epic wall of sound guitars and Jimmy and decent production |
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12-28-2014, 01:34 AM | #86 | |
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then there's that glass & the ghost children thing that made use of the unmastered tracks as well honestly i think even with the officially released one coming next year i'm still going to prefer my own version of whatever this whole gobble-di gook, rappidi-dash thing is |
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12-28-2014, 02:14 AM | #87 | |
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since I dropped out of paying attention long before and after TFE I'm not aware of any um... circulated alternate or acoustic (leaked in other words) versions, only the live recs. Mini anyone? |
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12-28-2014, 04:01 AM | #88 |
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Is there a studio version of mini? Can only find a live version on youtube
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12-28-2014, 05:35 AM | #89 |
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On Zero the guitar solo is a bit pitchy
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12-28-2014, 05:36 AM | #90 |
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In Porcelina there is a big jump in volume that can be startling
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