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05-26-2018, 06:30 PM | #121 |
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We only got to see print screens Darcy wanted us to see, even so the first message she shows us is Billy texting her with updates, while they were both still very friendly.
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05-26-2018, 06:57 PM | #122 |
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it's clear they were doing a jimmy/billy thing in LA and d;arcy cound out via instagram like the rest of us that it was going on and that she wasn't going to be there.
I'd be pissed. and it's revisionist bullshit from billy to say 'you weren't excluded' when that's exactly what's going in the moment. how dumb and desperate did he taker her to be? |
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05-27-2018, 12:46 AM | #123 |
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And then Corgan was also coming along from the back that Jack Bates would be their bassist even on tour, she could only have a guest role...
This all within a week after one and a half year both talking about a reunion. |
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05-27-2018, 02:33 AM | #124 |
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yeah i'm always moved to tears by the compassion when i tell my friends i escaped medical procedure, and they respond with "Ok, great on not needing surgery" and "we understand your enthusiasm"
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05-27-2018, 06:21 AM | #125 |
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That's exactly were they change the way they were talking. It sounds more like Billy wasn't sure if she was telling him all the truth. + We don't know what he/they said just after that text cause Darcy only showed us an edited version of it. For example, when Billy tells her "hence the door being open to you being involved when no one has seen you or seen you play. I alone haven't seen you for 19 years", if she has invited him for a meet it would only make sense to mention it, or mention that she was never invited by him/them. She didn't say anything about, later on she comes back to tell him that the doctors said she didn't need surgery.
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05-27-2018, 06:35 AM | #126 |
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Corgan could have easily said that she didn't invite him. And that she left out text messages in the conversation.
He preferred to say that they haven't been in a room for nineteen years... |
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05-27-2018, 08:03 AM | #127 |
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Right but maybe they couldn't wait for her medical issues anymore and decided to move on without her but leave it open.
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05-27-2018, 08:25 AM | #128 |
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They HAD already moved on, to record without knowing about her injury. Not even informed her at all before that they were recording.
And it's weird that D'arcy was only in communication with Billy Corgan the whole time. |
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05-27-2018, 12:51 PM | #129 |
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Why would he say that? She was the one waiting for an invitation to play with the band, not the other way around.
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05-27-2018, 01:47 PM | #130 |
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Corgan himself said two years ago that he was reconnecting with his band-family. And that this came first before any reunion activities.
Spending time on tours through the country to reconnect with average citizens life, but finding no way to visit his "family" member doesn't fit together. |
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05-27-2018, 02:04 PM | #131 | |
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How this has all turned out is disappointing because Billy seemed like he really got it when he referred to the band family relationship as being the most important part about reconnecting in 2016-2017, not any business/tour deals or anything. That's why I thought the reunion would work out, because they'd put having a good relationship above any commitments that could hurt that. Ultimately business ended up completely destroying the family. |
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05-28-2018, 12:25 PM | #132 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=qpGM-YpCg-o
as i always believed: darcy is the stubborn drug addicted moron who cannot cooperate |
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05-28-2018, 02:13 PM | #133 | |
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05-28-2018, 04:48 PM | #134 |
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YES, we don't have your vision...
The text messages show that Billy didn't even inform D'arcy before the recordings to make her able to meet them timely... |
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05-28-2018, 05:30 PM | #135 |
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That's actually his first message. She knew they were working together, she didn't learn that from instagram pictures, only that they were recording new stuff. James wasn't even around yet. She wasn't there cause she isn't able to play the bass, and she knew that.
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05-28-2018, 08:40 PM | #136 |
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Billy planning a gigantic comeback reunion tour yet doesn't actually reunite with one of the band members. What could possibly go wrong?
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05-28-2018, 09:35 PM | #137 |
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anyone ready to give up yet?
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05-28-2018, 10:30 PM | #138 |
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Never give up.
'Cause I will bang this drum to my dying day... |
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05-29-2018, 12:08 AM | #139 | |
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You are only constructing a story upon YOUR opinion. We only can be sure that D'arcy hadn't known about the recording session, not only hasn't been invited to it. And that you're an arrogant prick to deny her any abilities at all... |
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05-29-2018, 06:21 AM | #140 |
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Any time Billy talks about music, the creative process, or other bands, he's usually pretty interesting and intelligible. Any time he talks about anything else...
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05-29-2018, 06:40 AM | #141 | |
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https://i.imgur.com/AJhEDCA.jpg It's clear it was just an update, they had been talking about it before. Picture with Jimmy, billy and James reunited in the studio - Jan, 14th. They weren't working together yet tho, James only started with them later on. James first picture with the band was posted on March, 1st. Her interview with BlastEcho: Feb, 11th. She was told they were demoing. She wasn't there cause "her shoulder". She knew all along what was going on. Last edited by Forgotten Child : 05-29-2018 at 07:06 AM. |
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05-29-2018, 07:28 AM | #142 |
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It's clear by the message D'arcy sent afterwards that he hadn't informed her about the recording before, that his update was just a reaction on a message from D'arcy before that.
Then he came with excuses, why it wouldn't be so important for her to be there... https://i.imgur.com/YNTUSVU.jpg Last edited by Corgan's Bluff : 05-29-2018 at 07:46 AM. |
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05-29-2018, 07:50 AM | #143 |
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That's because they were not recording.
They only started working with Rubin one week later. They were demoing. James joined them late February/early March, that's when they started recording. She saw the picture with the 3 of them in the studio and assumed they were already working together. |
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05-29-2018, 08:19 AM | #144 |
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Fact is: darcy is out. I dont miss her. Couldnt play bass well enuff to record tracks on an album. Billy played 99 per cent. That says enuff about her bass skills.
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05-29-2018, 08:55 AM | #145 | ||
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05-29-2018, 02:28 PM | #147 |
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She played on all of Mellon Collie, and the vast majority of Adore and Machina II. She didn't need to be a superstar bassist to play with Smashing Pumpkins. It was never a band with particularly complex bass parts. She played in the band for eleven years with three very different and very talented drummers. Even on the albums where she did not play bass, Butch has stated her input into the songs helped shape them. At different points, every other member of the classic lineup praised her integrity and the musical ideas she brought to the band. Billy even continued to speak well of what she brought to the band in the Lars Ulrich interview.
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05-29-2018, 02:34 PM | #148 | |
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05-29-2018, 03:42 PM | #149 |
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Let's debate about this forever!
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05-29-2018, 03:43 PM | #150 |
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