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Old 12-09-2014, 06:05 PM   #1
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Red face The Senate’s 600 Page Torture Report

http://thinkprogress.org/world/2014/...orture-report/

The CIA tortured innocent people.

CIA leadership refused to punish an officer who killed a detainee during torture session.

Torture did not lead the CIA to the courier who ultimately helped capture Osama bin Laden.

The CIA intentionally mislead the media to “shape public opinion.”

CIA officers threatened to kill and rape detainees’ mothers.

The CIA tortured its own informants by accident.

The CIA tortured detainees in a dungeon.




What the actual fuck?

 
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Old 12-09-2014, 06:15 PM   #2
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was there any treasure in the dungeon?

 
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Old 12-09-2014, 06:19 PM   #3
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Old 12-09-2014, 06:25 PM   #4
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Not surprising but still horrific. I looked at some pictures of the sort of torture they were doing and it really hit home

 
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Old 12-09-2014, 06:37 PM   #5
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perhaps there was a dragon in the dungeon?

 
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Old 12-09-2014, 07:52 PM   #6
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The APA (American Psychological Association) also continues to not sanction the involved psychologists or condemn what they did. Here's one article about it: http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...-9-11-hijacker

Maybe these leaks will change that, but I doubt it. Fucking bullshit.

 
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Old 12-09-2014, 08:00 PM   #7
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Pretty appalling hearing those on the right complain about the release of this report affecting our foreign relations

 
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Old 12-09-2014, 08:02 PM   #8
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Christian Nation

 
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Old 12-09-2014, 08:10 PM   #9
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I guess I always had that shadow of a doubt, like maybe this was just something the media was blowing out of proportion. But no, our government really is that horrifying. Looking back on post 9/11 is even scarier now...


America does crazy stuff, the terrorists do crazy stuff... it's a wash

 
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Old 12-09-2014, 08:35 PM   #10
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all that matters is that i feel safe

 
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Old 12-09-2014, 08:38 PM   #11
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The APA (American Psychological Association) also continues to not sanction the involved psychologists or condemn what they did. Here's one article about it: http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...-9-11-hijacker

Maybe these leaks will change that, but I doubt it. Fucking bullshit.
those two shrinks were paid $81,000,000,000

 
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Old 12-09-2014, 08:39 PM   #12
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Here's a prediction! Not a single high ranking government or CIA official will get charged with any crimes.

this is what happens #whenyouvoteGOP

http://images.dailykos.com/images/61...jpg?1342210157

 
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Old 12-09-2014, 08:41 PM   #13
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in about a week it'll be whitewashed and justified and white america will forget

 
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Old 12-09-2014, 08:43 PM   #14
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because ultimately the real left will decry it and as soon as they do the wingnuts will contradict it and then the mushy middle elijah moon kinda guys are going to say well there are 2 sides 2 each story u no i think we should just move on i mean they have a point the terrorists may win!

 
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Old 12-09-2014, 10:11 PM   #15
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We need bipartisanship at a time like this!

 
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Old 12-09-2014, 10:25 PM   #16
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it gets to the point where you're not sure how people can't recognize injustice and why everything is turned into a right/left battleground

which is what you're doing, thanks for the typical stupid comment from our resident dawkins democrat

 
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Old 12-09-2014, 10:29 PM   #17
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It's kind of not our fault that the right is a conglamaration of every idea that's either stupid or evil

 
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Old 12-09-2014, 10:34 PM   #18
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no but you don't have to mock the idea that the right needs to get their shit together if they actually believe in "freedom"

because your kind of sentiment really is not productive and is exactly what is causing issues, because both sides accuse the other of being stupid and evil

 
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Old 12-09-2014, 10:36 PM   #19
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Always remember in democracy the people always gets the leaders it deserves.

 
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Old 12-09-2014, 10:37 PM   #20
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I see what you're saying

But the narrative that the problem with Washington is partisanship and not bad right wing policies comes straight out of the know nothing guide to politics. The same book Eli obviously adheres to

 
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Old 12-09-2014, 10:39 PM   #21
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Always remember in democracy the people always gets the leaders it deserves.
Not really true

 
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Old 12-10-2014, 12:21 AM   #22
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yeah obama's been president six years and he's doing it too

 
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Old 12-10-2014, 12:22 AM   #23
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and you won't see me say "both sides do it" much, but with torture and the war on terror they're all scum

except bernie and liz 'course

 
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Old 12-10-2014, 03:57 AM   #24
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AND IIIIIIIIIIIIIIII, CANT BELIEVE IT ALLLLLLLL


WAS GOOOOOOD, FOR HUMAN KIIIIIIND

 
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Old 12-10-2014, 04:12 AM   #25
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Dude, you need to understand--these are not right wing policies or left wing policies, these are American policies. Every last Democrat and Republican was shitting themselves in Washington after 9/11 and ready to Jack Bauer every last towelhead if need be. Now some of them are supposedly agast that torture went on (even though they knew it at the time). I don't believe that for a second.

This is just musical chairs. When the music stops, some bastard will take the fall and then they'll write a book about it and make a million dollars. Then the problem will be solved and America will be clean again.

I fucking hated Bush but I guarantee that son of a bitch won't apologize for this shit. He knows he tortured people and I'm sure he felt it was necessary and he doesn't give a damn that he will be remembered as the worst president of all time.
I don't disagree with any of this

 
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Old 12-10-2014, 07:20 AM   #26
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The APA (American Psychological Association) also continues to not sanction the involved psychologists or condemn what they did. Here's one article about it: http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...-9-11-hijacker

Maybe these leaks will change that, but I doubt it. Fucking bullshit.
The fact that John Leso is still licensed to practice is just beyond. When this first came out, he should have been ostracized and his license immediately suspended upon review. He's broken the ethical code of conduct with the APA and should be ousted.

Do no harm http://www.psychceu.com/ethics/lethal.asp

 
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Old 12-10-2014, 01:08 PM   #27
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and you won't see me say "both sides do it" much, but with torture and the war on terror they're all scum

except bernie and liz 'course
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yeah obama's been president six years and he's doing it too
that's not at all accurate

At this point it doesn't appear that the Obama is sanctioning anything like what went on under Bush/Cheney. The only reason GITMO is still open and Iraq is a disaster is because of the Bush administration. Likewise, the Clinton administration didn't resort to the level of lies and violence that his predecessor did either.

The reason that people were tortured is almost solely because of republican elected and appointed officials. Just listen to recent comments by Cheney and you can see that the people in charge at the time had no moral or ethical problem with it. Even the Senate committee charged with oversight was lied to by the CIA and the Bush admin.

 
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Old 12-10-2014, 01:10 PM   #28
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At this point if you are going to blame anything on Obama, wait to see whether his administration pushes for prosecutions of anybody involved. It's very likely that they won't. That would be on him.

 
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Old 12-10-2014, 02:02 PM   #29
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no that'd be bush's fault too

 
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All I care about is never bodyshaming Dick Cheney again. Unthinkable.

 
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