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Old 08-12-2014, 06:10 PM   #271
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ha, here's a thread similar to this one that i started in 2005. hope it illuminates some origins, assuming the stories were true back then.

http://forums.netphoria.org/showthread.php?t=86033

 
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Old 08-14-2014, 01:31 AM   #272
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reel time (including bye june, and 3 bonus tracks): https://mega.co.nz/#!GMtTEL7J!iEPQS0...07R4Ws43y42eB4
pi + friends: https://mega.co.nz/#!2UljGZzC!zvGcJ3...8YR0uXf3Rryrr4
faeomm (including firewall bonus track): https://mega.co.nz/#!LB9G1IBa!ijN-5v...HLMsPwMvaMKFqA

shntool checksums are posted here: http://forums.netphoria.org/showpost...&postcount=109

magickarper, was there anything else on my list that needed uploading?
i believe i still have to search for those zwan rough mixes and premasters.

 
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Old 08-14-2014, 03:45 AM   #273
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and i'm not sure if this is in the scope of our little magnet link thingy, but here is adore demos II (starseed): https://www.mediafire.com/folder/pui...%7BStArSeEd%7D

 
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Old 08-14-2014, 05:51 AM   #274
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Zwan Premasters and Rough Mixes are up here in Flac:
https://drive.google.com/folderview?...m8&usp=sharing

 
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Old 08-14-2014, 07:32 AM   #275
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i'm not sure if that source can be trusted just like that.

 
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Old 08-14-2014, 08:40 AM   #276
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its the same files that were posted on netphoria years ago, just converted to .flac. I have the .wav files also, but there were never any txt files or info, but they are there if you want to grab them. obviously don't just link to this folder, they could vanish from there any time.

if you cant find or want the original wav files i can upload them, but I am sure they will be the same as anyone who got them from Netphoria.

 
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Old 08-14-2014, 09:59 AM   #277
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we're not looking for the original wav files.
i'll just compare those shntool checksums, and if they're the same everywhere, then i think it's fair to assume we've got the original source and nothing happened to it in the mean time.

 
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Old 08-17-2014, 07:40 AM   #278
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i found this txt file:
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Zwan
2002-10-xx
Mary Star Of The Sea Rough Mixes

01 - Yeah!
02 - Lyric
03 - Ride A Black Swan
04 - Honestly
05 - Baby Let's Rock!
06 - Endless Summer

zwan2002-10-xx_rough_mixes-t01.flac:1cc3d8eb696075c3c4f881abf2208796
zwan2002-10-xx_rough_mixes-t02.flac:0f177ee5eccc6b21b0e22cbbef920371
zwan2002-10-xx_rough_mixes-t03.flac:8b7927fe82ee4060777de55210c50a79
zwan2002-10-xx_rough_mixes-t04.flac:c77931d60f86205bd9562852479c8c9e
zwan2002-10-xx_rough_mixes-t05.flac:f65c597964748eed9230086a322eb016
zwan2002-10-xx_rough_mixes-t06.flac:38b7097b21e0334eab55c0c69bd01657

 
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Old 08-17-2014, 07:47 AM   #279
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i compared this txt file i found with the shntool checksums from the flac files from that google drive link, and they match. so that must be the same source as what i originally downloaded. (they were shared as flac files, not as wav files.)
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1cc3d8eb696075c3c4f881abf2208796 [shntool] zwan2002-10-xx_rough_mixes-t01.flac
0f177ee5eccc6b21b0e22cbbef920371 [shntool] zwan2002-10-xx_rough_mixes-t02.flac
8b7927fe82ee4060777de55210c50a79 [shntool] zwan2002-10-xx_rough_mixes-t03.flac
c77931d60f86205bd9562852479c8c9e [shntool] zwan2002-10-xx_rough_mixes-t04.flac
f65c597964748eed9230086a322eb016 [shntool] zwan2002-10-xx_rough_mixes-t05.flac
38b7097b21e0334eab55c0c69bd01657 [shntool] zwan2002-10-xx_rough_mixes-t06.flac

 
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Old 08-17-2014, 08:01 AM   #280
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i googled zwan2002-11-xx_pre-masters.txt and found this:
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zwan2002-11-xx_pre-masters-t01.flac:646ec8713282699edd72a31169191ee8
zwan2002-11-xx_pre-masters-t02.flac:d8402dac14fc116be30acce79f26fc8e
zwan2002-11-xx_pre-masters-t03.flac:49808b09012f7df3281c4b0e0bf0fdb9
zwan2002-11-xx_pre-masters-t04.flac:512b7796f4cffcc2de5cc5016f518764
zwan2002-11-xx_pre-masters-t05.flac:1710d9dd6da4c3dbeba8e37ff8cfe87d
zwan2002-11-xx_pre-masters-t06.flac:c3816d24e5ef06d3306fe8514c3e6386
zwan2002-11-xx_pre-masters-t07.flac:81f4d306dee5c6f3cf472b49a45a89a6
zwan2002-11-xx_pre-masters-t08.flac:ceea1fffe34712aa766d35d6379342cb
this matches the shntool checksums of the flac files on that google drive:
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646ec8713282699edd72a31169191ee8 [shntool] zwan2002-11-xx_pre-masters-t01.flac
d8402dac14fc116be30acce79f26fc8e [shntool] zwan2002-11-xx_pre-masters-t02.flac
49808b09012f7df3281c4b0e0bf0fdb9 [shntool] zwan2002-11-xx_pre-masters-t03.flac
512b7796f4cffcc2de5cc5016f518764 [shntool] zwan2002-11-xx_pre-masters-t04.flac
1710d9dd6da4c3dbeba8e37ff8cfe87d [shntool] zwan2002-11-xx_pre-masters-t05.flac
c3816d24e5ef06d3306fe8514c3e6386 [shntool] zwan2002-11-xx_pre-masters-t06.flac
81f4d306dee5c6f3cf472b49a45a89a6 [shntool] zwan2002-11-xx_pre-masters-t07.flac
ceea1fffe34712aa766d35d6379342cb [shntool] zwan2002-11-xx_pre-masters-t08.flac
so both sets are good to go.

 
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Old 08-19-2014, 02:23 PM   #281
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with regards to PI+F: i transferred it, and gave it to StArSeEd to edit and distribute it.

i don't remember specifically what gear i used, but it was a commercial tape deck > SB Audigy or SB Live > WAV. StArSeEd did some magic and then put it out there.



i also possessed the original VHS' for Fruit Bat Salad (3 shows from 1992) and Fruit Bat Salad II (Live video of SD songs in order from various concerts). i didn't transfer those, but i gave them to someone who gave them to someone else to transfer.

there was also a VHS of 1993.08.13. if i recall, it was a full video. don't remember if it was PRO or AUD or even the overall quality though. not sure what ever became of that either.

sadly, i no longer have these gems.
This is great information. It's nice to see a picture of the tape.

The work that Starseed has done on PI is undoubtedly good, I wonder how different the original unequalised version sounded.

Wow, you had the Fruit Bat Salad tapes. It's unfortunate you don't still have them.

 
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Old 08-19-2014, 02:24 PM   #282
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no great rush, just wanted to see if there was anything that needed help doing.
sorry to bug you Mr Ice Cream Man. I'll make requests in another post .
We'll get this going again soon. Life is busy at the moment.

 
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Old 08-19-2014, 06:02 PM   #283
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better take this down before BC sues

 
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Old 08-19-2014, 06:45 PM   #284
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Hey yeah, lets just go watch American idol. Its time to move on... silly us for keeping these ghosts alive

 
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Old 08-20-2014, 12:52 AM   #285
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So whats the story on pisces and friends tape?

 
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Old 08-20-2014, 10:44 AM   #286
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So whats the story on pisces and friends tape?
basic story: the owner was an old friend of billy's. they lent it to me along with fruit bat salad I & II and a 1993.08.13 vhs. sadly, i only had the means to transfer the cassette.

 
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Old 08-20-2014, 07:03 PM   #287
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Ooo, It's goin' DOWN at the Ravinia!

Old Time Netphoria!

Eddie Shore!!!

 
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Old 08-20-2014, 10:54 PM   #288
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So I suppose if all this old stuff counts as unreleased Pumpkins material then we can't have the links here. Or maybe we can pretend that only applies to stuff that is supposedly going to be released by the band.

 
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Old 08-21-2014, 02:27 AM   #289
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if you meet monty at that show, can you please cut him up a little bit? thanks!

 
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Old 08-21-2014, 06:57 AM   #290
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pumpkins camp has flaming arrows. they say they're going to raid camp netphoria at twilight by canoe

 
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we're gonna have a shootout at the ravinia show? AWESOME!

 
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Old 08-21-2014, 09:36 AM   #292
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i already have plans to kick him in the dick next weekend at the show..i'll take care of this everyone just calm down..
i want to see the video of this. where's the video? HOARDERS PLEASE SHARE

 
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Old 08-21-2014, 06:28 PM   #293
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does anyone remember the rumor about someone getting beat with a crowbar at the future embrace boston show over some taping / bootlegging stuff that put someone in jail

 
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basic story: the owner was an old friend of billy's. they lent it to me along with fruit bat salad I & II and a 1993.08.13 vhs. sadly, i only had the means to transfer the cassette.
Ok, thanks. It look like it might predate the official Pisces Iscariot LP... this is probably what Billy mentions in the liner notes for the reissue?

 
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and i'm not sure if this is in the scope of our little magnet link thingy, but here is adore demos II (starseed):
If I may throw in my two cents, I think that in some cases, having fan-made restorations in addition to the original releases would be good to i n c l u d e.

It is a bit subjective to decide if a restoration should be included, but I think you'll find few who would fault Starseed's Adore II restoration, for example. I also have a Demos for Darcy restoration by Max2Max that uses no noise reduction, EQ or compression; just some pitch and volume correction. It might be worth including along with the original source.

13's stuff can absolutely be left in the dumpster, though.

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I don't know if you are still looking, but I have the Moon and TSP demos transferred from the original tapes. A few collectors and I made a homemade boot CD years ago called "Previeu". We used my original Moon demo tape and another collector's TSP tape to make the CD. I'm sure I have a few other goodies too; it's been YEARS since I've been involved in the trading scene.

 
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Anyone have the Pre-FM 1993-09-12 BBC Session, the original non-mixwell version?

 
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I don't know if you are still looking, but I have the Moon and TSP demos transferred from the original tapes. A few collectors and I made a homemade boot CD years ago called "Previeu". We used my original Moon demo tape and another collector's TSP tape to make the CD. I'm sure I have a few other goodies too; it's been YEARS since I've been involved in the trading scene.
When I finish advancing to candidacy I might have time to try to get this in motion. I recall that boot, though only vaguely. I wonder if I've got in my CD binder (which is probably worthless with CDR rot by now).

But now, what might these "goodies" you speak of be? My grandpa used to offer me goodies when I went over to his house. Typically peanut butter cookies. But damn if I don't love me some goodies.

 
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I owned the original tapes of the WZRD show and the Hut live promo with "Drown (Waterfront Demo)". I transferred them to CD-R years ago, ANA(M) > CD-R. One of my favorite goodies is the "En Concierto en Mexico" promo CD-R. I can't remember if I shared these things back in the day or not. I also have a Machina tour promo, "In Concert in Bercy", that sounds amazing...

 
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Oh man, WZRD has long been one of my favorites! Of all the rare stuff that was gifted into circulation it's the one I listen to the most. I basically think of it as a pre-Gish album. Thank you for that one!

 
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