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Old 07-24-2017, 12:27 PM   #31
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a man who speaks the truth.

what a bad episode. so tasteless. there were multiple points during this episode that i was like "man this is seriously fucking cheesy as a soap opera". so many eyeroll moments.
you can tell they've run out of books to adapt

i watched a clip from season 1 on youtube last night and i forgot how amazing the show was. the dialogue was so rich and well done. king robert was a fucking awesome character

 
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Old 07-24-2017, 12:27 PM   #32
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i cannot believe that sex scene was like 5 minutes long, between a eunuch and a girl who's like 8 in the books. why.

 
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Old 07-24-2017, 03:03 PM   #33
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Did yara die or what? I couldn't tell if that was her hanging or not
she must be alive. if she died we'd have seen it probably more clearly. I think Euron keeps her for maybe some torture later on. I hope theon will save her. if they both survive all this, his only chance not being murdered by Yara is if he saves her.

Loved the episode.

 
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Old 07-24-2017, 06:30 PM   #34
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Old 07-24-2017, 06:31 PM   #35
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Sam and the grandmeister talking about the book's title made me go "YOURE GONNA NAME IT SONG OF ICE AND FIRE AREN'T YOU" at the screen
that was MY idea! you stole it. I'm mad at you and your wonderful avatar

 
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Old 07-24-2017, 08:11 PM   #36
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she must be alive. if she died we'd have seen it probably more clearly. I think Euron keeps her for maybe some torture later on. I hope theon will save her. if they both survive all this, his only chance not being murdered by Yara is if he saves her.

Loved the episode.
I thought it was the Sand Snakes that Euron killed who were hanging. Remember Euron said he would deliver a present to Cersei?

I thought he was going to say he would deliver Danaerys to her, but maybe he meant Dorne or Asha? I don't know, nothing makes any damn sense in the tv show. Sam's like a magic doctor now because Jorah needs a happy ending? Whateeeveeerrrrr. He's no Jon Connington.

 
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Old 07-24-2017, 08:22 PM   #37
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Sam's books have become the ultimate cop-out device.

 
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Old 07-24-2017, 09:51 PM   #38
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this was an underrated post if i may say so

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ho ho ho, look at me i'm tubby Sam Tarley!

oh jolly, would you look at that?
i'm just flippin' through a quaint ol' forgotten book of lore i too easily stole not a mere 5 minutes ago, and by golly, A BIG FUCKING MAP WITH THE SECRET TO BEATING THE ARMY OF THE UNDEAD is just smeared there all over an entire page for my convenience!

ho ho ho, somebody get me a hot dog! cheerio!

 
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Old 07-24-2017, 10:05 PM   #39
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What a fuckin bitch-fest this thread is

 
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Old 07-24-2017, 10:14 PM   #40
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We live in an imperfect world.

 
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Old 07-24-2017, 10:17 PM   #41
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The love scene was important, emotional, and well done (particularly the "fear" talk leading up to it)

The Arya wolf scene was cool, very interesting thematic undertones.

Yes I also imagine Yara is alive and Theon will have to save her. That was not her hanging, just the Dornish daughters. Obviously Euron's gift to Cersei is the Dornish queen who killed her daughter.

The Samwell book stuff works because the show is all about all these young, brave characters breaking tradition with what came before them.

Man Joren's pain with the scale removal has to be insane.

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Old 07-24-2017, 10:19 PM   #42
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My main takeaway from the first 2 episodes is OMG SAMSA AND JOHN QUIT PISSING OFF LITTLEFINGER. THAT'S LITERALLY THE LAST GUY YOU WANT TO PISS OFF. That is going to end terribly for the Starks.

 
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Old 07-24-2017, 10:22 PM   #43
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Danaeris coming to terms with Varys, and his speech about loyalty, were awesome.

Danny, based on Olenna's advice to "be a dragon", is going to break with Tyrian at a crucial moment... will it be for good or bad...

 
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Old 07-24-2017, 10:22 PM   #44
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The love scene was important, emotional, and well done (particularly the "fear" talk leading up to it)
How would you say it was important?

 
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Old 07-24-2017, 10:28 PM   #45
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How would you say it was important?
Their romance has been culminating for like 2 seasons, and he's never been with a woman (a virgin in effect), and ashamed of his castration. She accepted him for who he was, and took away his shame.

It was a very humanizing moment for two characters who have always been very "cold" due to their background, nature and duties. If you don't care about these characters at this point, and don't appreciate this moment between them, I don't know what to tell you.

And I thought the "fear" talk was touching, as well as interesting background about the unsullied.

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Old 07-24-2017, 10:33 PM   #46
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There were no more "cheesy soap opera" moments than in every previous season. It's a dramatic show set in a medeival fantasy world. It's not like the dialogue used to be any more "realistic" or whatever.

 
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Old 07-24-2017, 10:34 PM   #47
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lol I'm defending literally the most popular show on the planet against internet trolls, fuck me.

 
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Old 07-24-2017, 10:37 PM   #48
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It was important if you consider those characters to be important, in other words?

Anybody might think you were making a circular argument.

 
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Old 07-24-2017, 10:39 PM   #49
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The pie kid learning how to brown butter was equally important by that logic, as he's been working at those recipes for a while now.

 
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Old 07-24-2017, 10:41 PM   #50
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The pie kid learning how to brown butter was equally important by that logic, as he's been working at those recipes for a while now.
I thought it was great seeing him again. He was an important reminder Arya's escape from King's Landing and how far she's come.

 
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Old 07-24-2017, 10:46 PM   #51
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His náďvété did provide a neat contrast to Arya's development since their last encounter.

 
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Old 07-24-2017, 10:48 PM   #52
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what i am a fan of, though, is Alfie Allen and his portrayal of Theon.

solid acting from him tonight. his right eye literally ticked as his entire being cracked once more, and he proved himself a weak person. he's such a complex, three dimensional character. he did some horrible shit, he makes bad choices whenever possible, but he is a reflection of what a fragile, sensitive person would have to live like in those times, with all the brutality going around like candy.

his character is one of my favorite on the show, and they hardly ever show him.
Big agree on this

 
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Old 07-24-2017, 11:02 PM   #53
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lol I'm defending literally the most popular show on the planet against internet trolls, fuck me.
the show being very popular does not make it flawless, and it doesn't render any criticism about it 'trolling'.

 
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Old 07-24-2017, 11:04 PM   #54
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we only get 7 episodes during this run, then 7 more next year, yeah?

pacing seems odd considering that

 
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Old 07-24-2017, 11:17 PM   #55
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"That's not you."

Where do we stand on this line?

 
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Old 07-24-2017, 11:23 PM   #56
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the show being very popular does not make it flawless, and it doesn't render any criticism about it 'trolling'.
i know i'm just being harsh. ya'll probably feel the way the wife and I felt about Walking Deads, where after watching dutifully for 7 seasons, we jumped ship cuz it just got fucking boring and there are too many cool things to watch and not enough time.

 
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Old 07-24-2017, 11:27 PM   #57
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"That's not you."

Where do we stand on this line?
it's explicitly discussed in the first minute here:


 
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Old 07-24-2017, 11:34 PM   #58
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that video also made me realize: pretty cool how all the leaders in Dany's council were female (Dany, Olenna, Ellaria and Yara)

 
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Old 07-25-2017, 03:05 AM   #59
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i have a big issue with those curveball, hyper-obscure references that would be utterly lost on one, had it not been for Inside The Episode and reviews by people who invested the last 7 years unraveling every last bit of trivia about the GoT universe.

i mean, on the one hand, i really do love that the show gives the viewers enough credit to NOT drag them through grating expository dialogue. i honestly think it's great that they consciously refuse to do that, and a lot more moviemakers/showrunners should be doing the same.

but on the other hand, being THAT obscure - with Arya's line that makes or breaks an entire scene, with The Hound's realization that the dead farmer and his daughter is his wrongdoing - that's the other extreme, and it's almost just as bad, in many ways. i think confusing your viewers and relying on them to read later on what a particular scene was all about, is simply lackluster storytelling.

 
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Old 07-25-2017, 07:52 AM   #60
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I honestly think the show has more good than bad going for it, even if I wasn't that big of a fan of the last episode.

I enjoyed the ship fight scene, it was appropriately chaotic and disorienting.

 
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