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Old 02-16-2016, 10:16 AM   #211
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I wonder what these poems mean.


 
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Old 02-16-2016, 10:27 AM   #212
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I don't know but they have ostensibly burned out all your internal organs leaving you a hollowed suit of human skin

 
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Old 02-16-2016, 06:28 PM   #213
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i honest to god cannot believe you still find this funny spguitar. you're basically the exact same person you were 15 years ago on the oboard

 
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Old 02-16-2016, 08:20 PM   #214
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sometimes people refer to certain lyrics as nonsense or not making sense, but I personally, and I admit this might be because of my overzealous lit crit brain, really believe that at least in the old days Billy chose these words very carefully. Even when things are nonsense, I think all those words were chosen and carefully placed in a certain order because they mean something to him that way, even if that thing is an abstract thought or feeling or image. Yes, the literal meaning of the line is something basically like who wouldn't want to be loved by you, but that's not exactly what he wrote. He wrote who wouldn't stand inside your love, as if Yelena's love is something monolithic, a force of nature, a spiritual projection or gaze (everlasting gaze? immutable, impossible...) That love is not something being given specifically to him, being generated for him. On the contrary, this love is something permanent, unchanging, all-powerful, beyond the ebb and flow of the mortal world and its flighty, ephemeral mortal fixations. This love is a love that flows from within her core by virtue of her grace. It's more like the love of God than the love of a romantic partner. And who wouldn't stand inside it? The love of God is not negotiable, it doesn't fade, it is forever and all one has to do is make the choice to accept it or not (in Christian mythology anyway). It's more like asking who wouldn't stand under the rays of the sun and feel them on their face?
Beautiful man just beautiful.

I agree the phrasing carries the Xtra meaning u identify. Good point

Now, riddle me this: what's the Xtra meaning implied in

" we share the same monkey disease
So give me my grape of peace "

 
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Old 02-16-2016, 08:36 PM   #215
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i thought it was graceful little peace?

 
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Old 02-16-2016, 08:37 PM   #216
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spfc says

we share the sea monkey disease
so give me my greatful little piece
and do what you want as you please

 
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Old 02-16-2016, 08:37 PM   #217
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sea monkey disease is new to me, lol

 
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Old 02-16-2016, 08:43 PM   #218
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sea monkey disease....


ok I take it back some of his lyrics are just bullshit.

BUT in all fairness this is a demo, and his lyrics always start as total nonsense that just fits the music, you can see this in the evolution of many songs. He tends to write the "real" lyrics later I guess.

 
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Old 02-16-2016, 08:44 PM   #219
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what about the lyric in Soot and Stars that references Neil Young by name

 
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Old 02-16-2016, 09:12 PM   #220
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i posted about it somewhere in this thread.

re: my mistake, i always looked as that song as a song he wrote about/for jimmy.
'we share the same monkey disease' = they speak the same musical language that nobody else seems to understand. i only got further confirmation when, on one of his blog posts, billy wrote something along the lines of "we speak the same monkey language" about jimmy.

come back to me, my mistake...

 
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Old 02-16-2016, 09:55 PM   #221
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Yeah it's same monkey disease I wanna believe

 
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Old 02-16-2016, 10:15 PM   #222
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i posted about it somewhere in this thread.

re: my mistake, i always looked as that song as a song he wrote about/for jimmy.
'we share the same monkey disease' = they speak the same musical language that nobody else seems to understand. i only got further confirmation when, on one of his blog posts, billy wrote something along the lines of "we speak the same monkey language" about jimmy.

come back to me, my mistake...
mind blown. you must spread rep etc ++

 
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Old 02-16-2016, 10:51 PM   #223
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yeah if you read the lyrics it's definitely about jimmy/heroin/kicking him out and stuff

Quote:
as the spitfires begin their descent
and tragic romantic ascent
my love is one hundred percent
JC joins SP, they get popular, everything's good

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so suck me through
your saliva screws
and i can't help myself if i don't know
the flaws in you
that were equal to
the mysteries of almost knew
and i've said this so many, many times
can't help you out of your mind
so please don't judge me a time
stop hiding your problems/lying, it's making our relationship harder

Quote:
we share the same monkey disease
so give me my grape of peace
and do what you want as you please
we have a musical connection
grape is like a more innocent, pure form of wine == stop doing drugs and be peaceful

Quote:
come back to me, my mistake
come back to me, my mistake
come back to me, my mistake
pls come back
it was my fault cause i was being a dick

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Old 02-16-2016, 11:49 PM   #224
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i've never had a thread go over 3 pages before, and even that was when i posted about wanting to kill myself

this is what billiam must have felt like when he was up on that stage during the mellon collie tour

 
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Old 02-17-2016, 06:02 AM   #225
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another gem for our rolling bullshit lyric thread:

DESOLATION - YES
HESITATION - NO

 
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Old 02-17-2016, 07:19 AM   #226
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well duh.

desolation stands for hella drug usage: HELLS YES TSP GOT FUCKED UP!

hesitation stands for a lack of hella drug usage : HELLS NO TSP DID NOT GET NOT FUCKED UP

 
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Old 02-17-2016, 07:19 AM   #227
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i'm not really sure why the all caps

 
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Old 02-17-2016, 07:59 AM   #228
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We won't hesitate to desolate the stage b/c untr00 fans didn't buy as many copies of Adore as they did MCIS

 
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Old 02-17-2016, 09:15 AM   #229
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another gem for our rolling bullshit lyric thread:

DESOLATION - YES
HESITATION - NO
i feel desolate but still won't hesitate in going on

 
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Old 02-19-2016, 09:44 AM   #230
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he is saying the shit that desolated him was his lack of hesitation.

Christ damn, how much clearer can I make it for you swinish imbeciles?

 
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Old 02-19-2016, 10:00 AM   #231
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The desolation/hesitation thing (and the multiple equally valid interpretations thereof) really underscores how bill's writing used to be so generous. Meaning one could absorb it and apply it to one's circumstances and feel "spoken to" or "understood." It's really a genius effect. There's been some flashes of this in latter-day bill's writing, but it seems to have been largely abandoned for specific non-sequiturs ("we are we are so young") or empty pop refrains ("ew girl ew").

Alas

 
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Old 02-19-2016, 10:11 AM   #232
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yeah if you read the lyrics it's definitely about jimmy/heroin/kicking him out and stuff



JC joins SP, they get popular, everything's good



stop hiding your problems/lying, it's making our relationship harder



we have a musical connection
grape is like a more innocent, pure form of wine == stop doing drugs and be peaceful



pls come back
it was my fault cause i was being a dick
So.......bill wants Jimmy to come back so Jimmy can suck bill thru his saliva screws??


 
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Old 02-19-2016, 06:07 PM   #233
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bill is in fact implying that he wishes jimmy to bestow upon him sexual pleasurement of the oral variety

 
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Old 02-19-2016, 08:58 PM   #234
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Graceful swans of never topple to the earth

Yeah, I'm that guy

 
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Old 02-19-2016, 10:15 PM   #235
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i know what you're going through. i was there too.

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btw i took a walk in the park the other day. p sure i saw a graceful swan of never!

it looked fairly agitated though because some kid was throwing stuff at it

 
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Old 02-22-2016, 01:39 AM   #236
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I LUV MY SISTA SO
SHE DON'T SMOTHER ME


 
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He was talking about James, who was like a sister to him.

With his gentle Japanese luvin, he didn't smother bElly.

 
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Old 03-02-2016, 08:10 AM   #238
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Despite all my rage I'm still just a rat in a cage

I think it alludes to frustration


 
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Old 03-02-2016, 02:20 PM   #239
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Does billy actually have a friend called Neil?

 
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Old 03-02-2016, 03:00 PM   #240
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Does billy actually have a friend called Neil?
does billy actually have any friends?

 
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