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Old 08-01-2018, 12:28 PM   #31
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Adore reissue is one of my favorite Pumpkins possessions of all time, tbh, so I had reason to be hopeful for the M ones

f'real though the majority of the fan tracklistings just kind of baffle me, most of them are just kind of a colorless mix-up of their favorite songs from the era with no real flow or purpose. However there have been a few that do work better than the actual released product, but then again who knows what they would have put out if given the thumbs-up for the double album Bill had wanted to make in the first place

 
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Old 08-01-2018, 12:28 PM   #32
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People who cut TEG and like, CCS can GTFO tho

 
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Old 08-01-2018, 12:29 PM   #33
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The only thing I know for sure about my own ideal Machina record would be the version of BSBT that would go on it



2 good

 
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Old 08-01-2018, 12:35 PM   #34
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How about--

MACHINA - Heavy Metal Version

1. Heavy Metal Machine
2. Heavy Metal Machine
3. Heavy Metal Machine
4. Heavy Metal Machine
5. Heavy Metal Machine
6. Heavy Metal Machine
7. Heavy Metal Machine (alternate mix)
8. Heavy Metal Machine
9. Heavy Metal Machine
10. Heavy Metal Machine
11. Go
This is great. Ending is a bit weak though.

 
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Old 08-01-2018, 12:36 PM   #35
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ORIGINAL THREAD

 
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Old 08-01-2018, 12:42 PM   #36
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The 2-disc one called "Glass and The Ghost Machine" is pretty good tho, and I know I've seen a couple on here that put in what looked like some serious work into constructing whatever plot they'd put out there while also managing a sort of musical flow/thematic continuity but I haven't quite listened to all of them

Edit: as soon as I went to fetch a link for GATMOG, i look in the notes file I had for it and the credit was to soniclovenoize. so, well, thanks guy!

 
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Old 08-01-2018, 01:03 PM   #37
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Listening to GATMOG right now, & truth be told, Innosense has gotta be a top 5 most underrated SP track for me. I never, ever hear people talking about it and it's rarely included in the fan-made compilations, but it's one of the most fragile & sincere things he put out in this period, along with "With Every Light" and maybe a couple others

 
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Old 08-01-2018, 01:04 PM   #38
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The only thing I know for sure about my own ideal Machina record would be the version of BSBT that would go on it



2 good
this is one of the best tsp songs of like all time.

 
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Old 08-01-2018, 01:06 PM   #39
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wait wtf hold the

how come I never heard that

I just downloaded a thing off soulseek containing this version called The Friends And Enemies Of Modern Music which is something completely different from machina 2 and the ep's

listening now, how the hell did it take 18+ years for me to find out about this?

 
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Old 08-01-2018, 01:09 PM   #40
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Old 08-01-2018, 01:09 PM   #41
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Yeah, the FAEOMM tape gets lost in the shuffle a lot

 
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Old 08-01-2018, 01:13 PM   #42
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Old 08-01-2018, 01:14 PM   #43
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Yeah, the FAEOMM tape gets lost in the shuffle a lot
seriously?!

I feel like eating my shoes

what kind of release was this?

 
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Old 08-01-2018, 01:14 PM   #44
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Is it just too "on the nose" to end with This Time and the "bid you all goodnight" line?

 
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Old 08-01-2018, 01:16 PM   #45
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No more on the nose than ending a 2-hr album with "Farewell & Goodnight"

 
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Old 08-01-2018, 01:16 PM   #46
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more importantly; will it be non-acetate based?

 
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Old 08-01-2018, 01:16 PM   #47
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seriously?!

I feel like eating my shoes

what kind of release was this?
http://www.spfc.org/songs-releases/b...ml?boot_id=165

 
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Old 08-01-2018, 01:16 PM   #48
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and yeah the whole FAEOMM kind of confused me too when I'd first discovered it cos Machina 2 had the exact phrase as its subtitle

 
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Old 08-01-2018, 01:17 PM   #49
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*eats shoes*

ok blue skies bring tears might be a good song after all

 
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Old 08-01-2018, 01:18 PM   #50
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"La Deux Machina (Mike Garson Version)" legit looks like a title someone on here would put on a mock-reissue tracklisting

 
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Old 08-01-2018, 01:19 PM   #51
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you okay, johncg?

a lot of people even here were looking forward to that reissue the most, are you trying to say nobody ever wanted it, ergo if you do, you must be Bully? um...

Bully 146 checking in

 
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Old 08-01-2018, 01:23 PM   #52
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well color me surprised.

now playing the mike Garson over the the top version of la deux machina

 
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Old 08-01-2018, 01:23 PM   #53
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can't wait until smashingjj discovers speed kills spacey version

 
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Old 08-01-2018, 01:45 PM   #54
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lololo smashing jj
didn't know the faeomm tape

 
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Old 08-01-2018, 02:21 PM   #55
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I know, pretty amazing, I surprise myself

I'm going to reconsider everything I've ever said about the machina era

 
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Old 08-01-2018, 02:22 PM   #56
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Old 08-01-2018, 02:38 PM   #57
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Can Machina be better? Oh yes, most definitely.

With Machina, less is more.

 
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Old 08-01-2018, 02:43 PM   #58
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Adore reissue is one of my favorite Pumpkins possessions of all time, tbh, so I had reason to be hopeful for the M ones

f'real though the majority of the fan tracklistings just kind of baffle me, most of them are just kind of a colorless mix-up of their favorite songs from the era with no real flow or purpose. However there have been a few that do work better than the actual released product, but then again who knows what they would have put out if given the thumbs-up for the double album Bill had wanted to make in the first place
I made a slightly more electronic-based 17 track Adore tracklist that I quite enjoy that mostly keeps the original order with other tracks in certain places.

01 To Sheila
02 Ava Adore
03 Eye (taken from Rarities & B-Sides)
04 Perfect
05 Daphne Descends
06 Saturnine (taken from Rarities & B-Sides)
07 Tear
08 Crestfallen
09 Waiting (taken from Rarities & B-Sides)
10 Appels + Oranjes
11 Pug
12 Shame
13 Behold! The Night Mare
14 For Martha
15 Blank Page
16 Blissed And Gone (taken from Rarities & B-Sides)
17 17

 
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Old 08-01-2018, 02:53 PM   #59
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I'm sure it could've been better but if you consider it to be a bad record I don't think there's any combination of songs that would've made it a good record.

If they'd recorded Glass Theme, Dross, Cash Car Star or whatever for Machina 1 they'd most likely have been slow, weird sounding versions because the band seemingly wanted a slow, weird sounding record.

 
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Old 08-01-2018, 02:54 PM   #60
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just listened to judas ø again

listening to 17 for the first time in 1998 and blissed and gone for the first time in 2001, it seems as though a lifetime happened in between

 
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