Solara is out for real

[thedeadofnight]

song blows

[FoolofaTook]

https://img.youtube.com/vi/U8Mo7LY6pno/hqdefault.jpg

[thedeadofnight]

Puddle of Mudd meets Nickelsack

[Zer0 Hour]

Originally Posted by thedeadofnight

song blows

"You're wrong about Solara." - Billy Corgan

[Shadaloo]

Originally Posted by Zer0 Hour

Dude, the ticket for Mason was $23. And seeing the Pumpkins isn't embarrassing. They sounded great. I only said that some of Billy's self-indulgent antics (the Billy Christ, the costumes, that stupid fucking Dumbo song, Mark McGrath, the Solara video) are embarrassing. You could say that Manson's antics are embarrassing too, but that was always his thing. And if he came out now and just played a normal set with no makeup or theatrics, no one would want to see that. Billy and the Pumpkins could play a great set without all that other BS and I don't think anyone would give them shit.

Thing is, you lucked out in seeing a good Manson show. 50% of the time nowadays he's too drunk to perform properly. Don't forget, he cancelled Toronto due to "being sick" and he and Rob Zombie were laughing at it at Heavy MTL the next day.

Fucker came here two years ago, I told my girlfriend he wasn't worth attending anymore but she'd never seen him so I took the chance. Setlist was 10 or 12 songs, he slurred his way through four before disappearing backstage for ten minutes while the whole darkened arena started booing and chanting for Slipknot to come out. He showed back up, did Sweet Dreams, let the crowd Karaoke Beautiful people and fucked off. 8 songs total. Slipknot blew him away.

Manson was always about theatrics, yeah, but when he was actually relevant he had energy to spare even when he had to huff from an oxygen tank. I would be embarrassed to see him now because I can recall when his stage shows were worth a damn. Now he's just going through the motions - when he can.

I've been saying it for years; Manson should retire the whole shock rock shtick and change his approach to some form of doomy blues artist. I wouldn't give two shits if he ditched all the makeup, and I was a fan for fifteen years.

I wish the theatrics in SP's show were dialed down a bit too, but at least there's a kind of cynical vibe Billy's going for by making it all over the top on purpose. It's all spite because he's got to be a greatest hits act now, and I can appreciate that, and the arena audiences are eating it up, in addition to the fact that they're playing better than they have in years. Maybe next time they'll dial it down.

[spguitar0]

Originally Posted by FoolofaTook

https://img.youtube.com/vi/U8Mo7LY6pno/hqdefault.jpg

Lol fun fact. None of those guys are me and the guy on the right is playing drums in stadiums now with country band Brothers Osborne.

[FoolofaTook]

maybe one of these guys then?

https://www.punkbandpromotions.com/p.../_v=1393797093

[Zer0 Hour]

Originally Posted by Shadaloo

Thing is, you lucked out in seeing a good Manson show. 50% of the time nowadays he's too drunk to perform properly. Don't forget, he cancelled Toronto due to "being sick" and he and Rob Zombie were laughing at it at Heavy MTL the next day.

Fucker came here two years ago, I told my girlfriend he wasn't worth attending anymore but she'd never seen him so I took the chance. Setlist was 10 or 12 songs, he slurred his way through four before disappearing backstage for ten minutes while the whole darkened arena started booing and chanting for Slipknot to come out. He showed back up, did Sweet Dreams, let the crowd Karaoke Beautiful people and fucked off. 8 songs total. Slipknot blew him away.

Manson was always about theatrics, yeah, but when he was actually relevant he had energy to spare even when he had to huff from an oxygen tank. I would be embarrassed to see him now because I can recall when his stage shows were worth a damn. Now he's just going through the motions - when he can.

I've been saying it for years; Manson should retire the whole shock rock shtick and change his approach to some form of doomy blues artist. I wouldn't give two shits if he ditched all the makeup, and I was a fan for fifteen years.

I wish the theatrics in SP's show were dialed down a bit too, but at least there's a kind of cynical vibe Billy's going for by making it all over the top on purpose. It's all spite because he's got to be a greatest hits act now, and I can appreciate that, and the arena audiences are eating it up, in addition to the fact that they're playing better than they have in years. Maybe next time they'll dial it down.

Yeah, I heard about the Toronto show. Me and another guy in the audience were taking bets on whether he would cancel again when the opening act came out about 10 minutes after they were supposed to, lol.

I probably did luck out with Manson; I have no doubt that many of his shows have been like the one you experienced. He did come off like a total dick when he got these three girls and one dumbass guy to all come up on stage and take their shirts off. Once of these girls looked WAYYYY to young to be doing that.

As for Billy, yeah, I see your point there, but I'm not sure that the fans have all been eating up all of the weird Bill-centric art and videos. People sitting around me were all like, "What the fuck is this?" and I've seen a lot of criticism about it online. I don't think it ruins the show by any means but it does seem to be too much. He can certainly do away with the Mark McGrath shit. For fuck sake, NO ONE but him thinks that's a good idea.

[spguitar0]

Originally Posted by FoolofaTook

maybe one of these guys then?

https://www.punkbandpromotions.com/p.../_v=1393797093

Woah throwback to the punk band. I'm the 2nd from right. I think that was 2012-ish? I don't even remember.

[houseofglass11]

Punk as fuck

[Shallowed]

Originally Posted by Shadaloo

I've been saying it for years; Manson should retire the whole shock rock shtick and change his approach to some form of doomy blues artist. I wouldn't give two shits if he ditched all the makeup, and I was a fan for fifteen years.

He would really suit a Nick Cave style

[Corgan's Bluff]

Official YouTube-Release now of SOLARA live at the Troubadour:



This video is WAY BETTER done...

[houseofglass11]

Manson pretty much did adopt a doomy blues style on Pale Emperor. Great album, too bad the last one wasn't very good.

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by houseofglass11

Remember when this band didn't make you feel embarassed to be a fan? 1989-2000 does.

I dunno, I'd say it started to feel embarrassing by the time of Machina, if not Adore. Corgans personality and the bands image at the time played a major role in that.

I was well over SP as a teenager by the time Machina came out. I remember sitting behind this flamboyantly gay guy in math class and he had this SP shirt and on the back was a giant S and a cross and a P. It literally looked like STP. I thought forever that it was a Stone Temple Pilots shirt.

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/5xYAA...2Uz/s-l300.jpg

What a shitty looking logo

[reprise85]

billy sounds like shit but the band sounds good

[Zer0 Hour]

Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

I dunno, I'd say it started to feel embarrassing by the time of Machina, if not Adore. Corgans personality and the bands image at the time played a major role in that.

I was well over SP as a teenager by the time Machina came out. I remember sitting behind this flamboyantly gay guy in math class and he had this SP shirt and on the back was a giant S and a cross and a P. It literally looked like STP. I thought forever that it was a Stone Temple Pilots shirt.

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/5xYAA...2Uz/s-l300.jpg

What a shitty looking logo

Yeah I remember the first time I saw that logo I thought it was for STP.

[Shadaloo]

Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

I remember sitting behind this flamboyantly gay guy in math class

Fuck's this supposed to indicate? Jesus.

Anyway, was at a barbecue with some old friends yesterday and one of them mentioned to me that she really liked the new 'burn down the sun' song and that it was apparently in heavy rotation on the local rock station. Said she absolutely loved the drumming and that it was the first SP song in a long time she thought was fun.

[smashingjj]

Originally Posted by Shadaloo

Fuck's this supposed to indicate? Jesus.

It indicates a fuzzyroes post

It's basically a disclaimer

[MyKeyZ]

Originally Posted by houseofglass11

Manson pretty much did adopt a doomy blues style on Pale Emperor. Great album, too bad the last one wasn't very good.

I just can't get into Manson at all.

[FoolofaTook]

i prefer xasthur tbh

[Shadaloo]

Thank Tyler Bates for that, he wrote the album. Shame he didn't continue that amgle with the next one.

[slunken]

Originally Posted by Shallowed

He would really suit a Nick Cave style

I agree but don't forget he has very limited musical ability combined with poor taste and a terrible work ethic

[Mals Marola]

Hasn't seem to hurt him in the past

[Mals Marola]

No more than a certain bald workaholic with plenty of musical ability that we all know and love, at least!

[Corgan's Bluff]

Looks like they won't release a second single from the album that once should be two EP's...

https://scontent-frt3-2.xx.fbcdn.net...38&oe=5C074351

[ninsp]

Originally Posted by Corgan's Bluff

Official YouTube-Release now of SOLARA live at the Troubadour:



This video is WAY BETTER done...

The studio version is a fucking travesty

I *like* the song live

[enthusaroo]

Originally Posted by reprise85

billy sounds like shit but the band sounds good

That's exactly my thought too.

Billy sounds fucking terrible.. like ruining the song with his singing and these stupid lyrics. But Jimmy and James do sound pretty fucking amazing rocking out to a sub-par song.

[enthusaroo]

Originally Posted by thedeadofnight

song blows

+ 1

[enthusaroo]

Originally Posted by ninsp

The studio version is a fucking travesty

I *like* the song live

it's still a totally trash shitty song.. certainly one of the worst and definitely worst single ever in Pumpkins' catelog.. but yeah it sounds bearable and better live.

[ninsp]

Originally Posted by enthusaroo

it's still a totally trash shitty song.. certainly one of the worst and definitely worst single ever in Pumpkins' catelog.. but yeah it sounds bearable and better live.

Worse than Widow?

Retard