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03-17-2018, 08:37 PM | #31 |
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Lol I think it speaks volumes that the only other communities out there have to consistently sensor content. It's not like Netphoria is some corner in the wall that rips on a band for no reason, the artist at hand has just had a decline much larger than any of his other contemporaries.... Everyone fucking knows it... It's no secret to the world... But if you point it out "you're negative".
What I don't get is why the Facebook groups and Reddit forums constantly delete content... It's like they're trauma victims that just can't tolerate the truth.... It's either that or they're just nut-jobs that are so ecstatic that Billy wore their tee-shirt and they're just imagining that Billy is hanging on every word featured on their platform... Either way, it's totally irrational. |
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03-17-2018, 09:14 PM | #32 |
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03-17-2018, 09:16 PM | #33 |
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it's rational in the sense that every one of these facebook groups and subreddits has known xy damage control folk(ers) as admins. each one.
when it became rather ridiculous (like deleting links to pitchfork articles because they didn't asskiss Bully enough) I looked around, every single one has one if not two admins who were around for a while and are kept as lapdogs by either - wearing their fan shirts, thanking them publicly, supporting their site directly (like spfreaks) etc. you think it's a coincidence that some people who fall in the personal cult admiration camp (like Monte did) are kept close, or that Linda joins 4 different facebook groups? plus honestly, if you are somewhat sane and don't enjoy the sport of talking shit about sp camp (which is enjoyable), most people would simply stop paying attention or participating at all in online convos, no? I for one am not posting on any other sites associated with certain musicians to give them shit, as deserved as it might be, instead I just stopped going to gigs and stopped to buy their albums. Last edited by pavementtune : 03-17-2018 at 09:22 PM. |
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03-17-2018, 09:21 PM | #34 | |
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03-17-2018, 10:18 PM | #35 | |
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(yes, I know that conclusion sounds bat-shit crazy... But I honestly think it's true) |
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03-17-2018, 10:20 PM | #36 |
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03-17-2018, 10:44 PM | #37 |
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Billy is small enough now that there is a real possibility that he might be reading my content.
i hope billy reads what I have to say about him. http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...40/283/350.png |
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03-17-2018, 11:24 PM | #38 |
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Everyone is free to have their own opinions. You are free to have a negative opinion on someone. But what I don't understand is why anyone that has such a negative opinion on someone would spend so much time following that very person's every last post on instagram. Why would you waste your time? It's one thing to listen to the music if you like it. Talk to people on here that you like talking to. But why focus on reading his personal thoughts and opinions when you hate them so much? You are only putting salt on your own wounds.
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03-17-2018, 11:38 PM | #39 |
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03-17-2018, 11:43 PM | #40 | |
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03-18-2018, 12:56 AM | #41 |
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Not everyone here does it with the intent of taking massive steaming dumps on the band or Bill with every post.
I give the guy a little more leeway than most because I believe his psychological condition has severely hampered his ability to interact with other people in a meaningful way, and I don't think he can help but to overinflate his ego whenever he can. More than anything else, I feel sorry for him. And I can find a fair amount of tracks to like post-2000. But even with those factors in consideration, it's been album after album of disappointments to varying degrees from inoffensive to outright terrible so I don't begrudge anyone their cynicism. There's not a lot of reason to expect anything good, much less something good that isn't botched by bad production decisions. I'd rather be here where I can partake of or read interesting objective discussion about the band or its history rather than sift through the type of sycophantic crap BC needs to read to enforce his own opinion that he's still relevant. Every band has fans like that, but they're poison to someone with a brain wired like Bill's, and it strikes me as sad that we're well beyond the point where he'll ever accept criticism. I do like to follow his instagram though because I do get the sense at times he does appreciate his audience (as much as he hates it) in his own weird way out of his own odd headspace. |
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03-18-2018, 01:29 AM | #42 |
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this always happens when there's a flux of new members who think their opinion actually matters and we don't believe they will be gone in 3 months or less.
we're here letting the waves crash upon our bodies. |
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03-18-2018, 09:07 AM | #43 |
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Negativity? I'd say more like reality-not sugar coated ass kissing bullshit that was on the Oboard back in the day
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03-18-2018, 09:11 AM | #44 |
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rubbernecker: "A driver who slows down at accident to have a look"
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03-18-2018, 09:42 AM | #45 |
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me i have a picnic
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03-18-2018, 09:42 AM | #46 |
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03-18-2018, 09:56 AM | #47 |
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I think it's very interesting that all the "officially" modded sites involved with the band literally erase any sort of negativity about the band. The D'arcy "Billy demands 100% loyalty from everyone and never gives it back..." (paraphrased quote) is very striking when it comes to the identity of this place.
Sometimes (mostly for a goof) people who post here are overtly negative. A good deal of us are just old fans that have matured enough to use independent/analytical thought to address what's actually going on - a good deal of us are just calling it like it is, unmodded. It was exciting for me too when I delved into the good SP albums. They're really fucking good albums. That doesn't mean that the mastermind of those albums is beyond reproach. |
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03-18-2018, 10:01 AM | #48 | |
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I must admit that billy is an idiotic sociopath that once wrote some good songs |
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03-18-2018, 10:51 AM | #49 | |
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As for the question in the op - being a fan of the band doesn't mean you have to love and worship everything that comes out of Billy's mouth. You can say It's wasting time being negative and I'll say it's people finally being honest. |
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03-18-2018, 11:09 AM | #50 |
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for some of us this is a fond pastime.
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03-18-2018, 11:10 AM | #51 |
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03-18-2018, 11:51 AM | #52 |
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03-18-2018, 12:21 PM | #53 |
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03-18-2018, 05:42 PM | #54 | |
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you do what you have to do you pig. but i'm telling you, you think you know what you are doing here with me, but you don't. if you just want to go to war, keep running your mouth. i;d like to see you try to sue me for libel. you don't have two nickels to rub together.you are a fake, a phony, a liar, and now a proven idiot. what artist will ever work with a manufacturer who disses her clients out? you are so fucking stupid. and you didn't even have the courage to deal with it in private. you run to a greek chorus of idiots to ape you on. like i said, one more word out of you in public and i will be suing you for ten times more than you'll make in the next ten years. and don't think i am one to make hollow threats. i've been in many lawsuits through the years, and haven's lost one yet. enjoy your 15 seconds of negative attention. you fucked up, you know it, so eat shit, shut the fuck up and accept you've attacked someone who tried to HELP YOU. but addicts and self-destructive people like you who HATE THEMSELVES must turn their hate out. if this is what you have to do to not kill your unhappy self, well then i'd say it was a wise decision. beyond that, you are fucking lame, dumb, and so so ugly. |
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03-18-2018, 06:01 PM | #55 |
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it's ok tho cos he posts pics of the child he fathered on a childbride
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03-18-2018, 07:12 PM | #56 |
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03-18-2018, 08:10 PM | #57 |
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i wonder why there's all this negativity about bills?
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03-18-2018, 08:17 PM | #58 |
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How the fuck are you supposed to be positive about what this band became? I have never heard any music as good as the stuff I heard in their prime. Never. Admittedly I have lot more music to listen to but the point is that this was a truly special band. What I heard from the “new SP” bored me to tears and I never thought I’d say that about music Corgan wrote. And this was a band fans were led to believe was caring and wanted to create positive change (Tibet freedom concert, giving tour money to kids in need), and now look at Corgan. Friends with Alex Jones ffs
And Billy needs to be held accountable, especially for emotionally abusing someone he called a friend for over a decade. |
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03-18-2018, 08:26 PM | #59 | |
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03-18-2018, 08:37 PM | #60 | |
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If you watch old SP interviews you’d come away thinking of course BC would protest Trump, but.... It’s crazy how amazing his legacy would be if he had died in 2000. I’m sure we’d all be saying “if Billy were still here he’d protest all this shit!” |
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