Lets revisit Teargarden.

[incubator]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7F8jQSV6Hf8

It was all downhill from here.

[topleybird]

[Joey Goldberg]

it had its moments, but it was definitely not "downhill from here" lol. this was the fucking nadir, though maybe that had more to do with the "era" than the music, what with the departure of Jimmy & all the other nonsense going on around this time

[themadcaplaughs]

That "Teargarden Theme" wasn't so bad, and I like the guitar solo in "A Song for a Son."

That is all.

[Joey Goldberg]

Tom Tom is still one of the best songs of SP2

Fellowship is pretty good as far as goofy Corgan synth shit goes

Freak had a cool gtr sound

[Joey Goldberg]

&, as we've all come to agree upon in the passing years, "Widow Wake" is a crowning jewel in the Corgan discography

[FoolofaTook]

I see I was wrong about the Milli Vanilli thread being where you guys bottom out.

[MyOneAndOnly]

just feel those drums!! #MonteLDS #MonteITS

[Disco King]

Originally Posted by Joey Goldberg

Tom Tom is still one of the best songs of SP2

Fellowship is pretty good as far as goofy Corgan synth shit goes

Freak had a cool gtr sound

I liked "Tom Tom" in its more moody live form, but the recorded version feels too upbeat and boring.

I don't mind the verses of "The Fellowship," but the chorus is garbage. Also, the electronic noodling at the beginning sounds like it's supposed to be for a totally different song. Like he just tacked it on there for the sake it.

I dislike everything about "Freak," and I refuse to acknowledge its alternate title of "Freak USA" because it doesn't deserve to be considered a successor of any kind to the vastly superior "Geek USA."

[FoolofaTook]

the very fact that you guys know anything about these songs is like hella

[Disco King]

This was the last SP album that I listened to religiously, trying to "get it," because I was still in denial that Corgan hasn't got it anymore.

I listened to Oceania a few times, and haven't bought a new SP album since.

[FoolofaTook]

just foolfin'

i listened up to american gothic. think i might have heard song for a son once.

then i listened to like half of oceania because i was drinking cough syrup at the time.


i listened to all of shiney because of james that bastard. what a blunder!

[Glopaiswe]

no

[Joey Goldberg]

Originally Posted by FoolofaTook

just foolfin'

i listened up to american gothic. think i might have heard song for a son once.

then i listened to like half of oceania because i was drinking cough syrup at the time.


i listened to all of shiney because of james that bastard. what a blunder!

you're on a Smashing Pumpkins message board, i don't think listening to some of the actual newer music released under the name is all that mindblowing

[FoolofaTook]

[Ram27]

I don't think I've ever even listened to this beyond snippets when I was 16 to complain. Here we go.

Teargarden Theme
4/10
I like the harpsichord. Reminds me of Garson's ITIAG during Machina. This is slower and more plodding and does [weird music theory stuff] so it sounds moody and eastern or whatever. Ooh the cut to the organ is nice. Overall feels aimless, like Corgan just noodling around with whatever

A Song for a Son
7/10
Love the maritime theme, love the reverb on his voice and acoustic. Guitar solo is great. The drums and cymbals [I'm just hearing a very thin wash of a crash on the left channel?] sound fucking weird; it's still upsetting hearing Mike throw in those crazy syncopated tom fills just because. I know he's 19 shh. 'sailed without a maaaap' ending comes off flat imo

Astral Planes
6/10
oh jesus god. The lyrics and vocal melody are straight fucking trash. Instrumentally I like it, especially if I were to hear it live and the guitars had more...space? The faraway light section is pretty killer. So is the crazy ending.

Widow Wake My Mind
7/10
The oohs are fucking fucking shit just like in Knights of Malta. Stop doing this gross fucking vocalizing shit jesus christ.
And just like in Knights, it's a nice listen underneath. Bass groove in the verse is great. Drums are good too

A Stitch in Time
6/10
I like the lyrics and acoustic but there's too much shit going on in the back that doesn't add much

The Fellowship
6.5/10
First 30 seconds are fucking hideous but I like the drum entrance. Rest of song is pretty nice.

Freak
Really like the lead guitar. Vocals are grating.

I’m not enjoying any of these enough to keep doing this. that's all you need to know

[houseofglass11]

A Stitch in Time is great but the version on YouTube with the dude adding drums is way better

Also Tom Tom is the best Teargarden track. Love that one

[toase]

let's listen to tergarden while licking public toilet seats #coronachallenge #teargardenchallenge #sadmachinesareimmunetoviruses

[Disco King]

Originally Posted by Disco King

…and haven't bought a new SP album since.

Wait, that's wrong.

I actually purchased Elegies to a Monument because it was in the discount bin at HMV and I thought, "what the hell."

It's still in its shrink wrap.

[run2pee]

Tom Tom is like the only one i can even rememebr and yeah

Pretty ok i guess, dunno

[incubator]

Originally Posted by Disco King

Wait, that's wrong.

I actually purchased Elegies to a Monument because it was in the discount bin at HMV and I thought, "what the hell."

It's still in its shrink wrap.

Just listen to it.

[incubator]

Originally Posted by Ram27

I don't think I've ever even listened to this beyond snippets when I was 16 to complain. Here we go.

Teargarden Theme
4/10
I like the harpsichord. Reminds me of Garson's ITIAG during Machina. This is slower and more plodding and does [weird music theory stuff] so it sounds moody and eastern or whatever. Ooh the cut to the organ is nice. Overall feels aimless, like Corgan just noodling around with whatever

A Song for a Son
7/10
Love the maritime theme, love the reverb on his voice and acoustic. Guitar solo is great. The drums and cymbals [I'm just hearing a very thin wash of a crash on the left channel?] sound fucking weird; it's still upsetting hearing Mike throw in those crazy syncopated tom fills just because. I know he's 19 shh. 'sailed without a maaaap' ending comes off flat imo

Astral Planes
6/10
oh jesus god. The lyrics and vocal melody are straight fucking trash. Instrumentally I like it, especially if I were to hear it live and the guitars had more...space? The faraway light section is pretty killer. So is the crazy ending.

Widow Wake My Mind
7/10
The oohs are fucking fucking shit just like in Knights of Malta. Stop doing this gross fucking vocalizing shit jesus christ.
And just like in Knights, it's a nice listen underneath. Bass groove in the verse is great. Drums are good too

A Stitch in Time
6/10
I like the lyrics and acoustic but there's too much shit going on in the back that doesn't add much

The Fellowship
6.5/10
First 30 seconds are fucking hideous but I like the drum entrance. Rest of song is pretty nice.

Freak
Really like the lead guitar. Vocals are grating.

I’m not enjoying any of these enough to keep doing this. that's all you need to know

Great attempt but you stopped too soon. "Lightening Strikes" has a good bit in it and Owata is a song too.

[smashingjj]

W H Y

[Eulogy]

Originally Posted by FoolofaTook

the very fact that you guys know anything about these songs is like hella

lol this was actually my thought

[incubator]

Originally Posted by Eulogy

lol this was actually my thought

"I've never listened to anything after Machina 2"

*logs off and listens to a very worn copy of "The Solstice Bare" while clutching the obelisk*

[FoolofaTook]

but its so small how do you clutch it with two fingers?

[Joey Goldberg]

same way I clutch your daddy "down there"

[Joey Goldberg]

i really wanted to dig in to some of you acting like it's incredulous that anyone here would have actually dared to listen to the Teargarden stuff when it was coming out, but then I came to my senses & remembered this isn't a Pumpkins board, merely an extended thread about the band on a Two Gallants forum in a Mr. Big message board

carry on

[FoolofaTook]

ur dad is my mr. big

[FoolofaTook]

why does it not surprise me that someone who hasn't listened to feedbacker yet HAS listened to turdgarden???

does this surprise anyone? no, it does not.