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Old 09-19-2018, 06:41 PM   #1
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Default I've been binge-watching the original Will and Grace show.

This... did not age well.

 
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Old 09-19-2018, 10:02 PM   #2
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Old 09-19-2018, 10:20 PM   #3
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I used 2 b obsessed w this show. Think I lost track around maybe season 5? Is that when the guest stars started getting ridiculous?

I dunno. I liked when Sandra Bernhardt played herself in season 3(?). Woody Harrelson's character was too obnoxious.

I'll always have a soft spot for Sean Hayes because he was the first very openly gay character I watched on prime time. It made me feel a certain way.

 
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Will is so smug tho. Never warmed to his character.

They're all pretty terrible people which i should be fine with because seinfeld is my fave show of all time for like 25 years running and they were all huge assholes.

 
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Old 09-20-2018, 01:07 AM   #5
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Sorry, this is a Frasier household.

 
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Old 09-20-2018, 01:10 AM   #6
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yeah frasier is just an asshole in real life

 
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Old 09-20-2018, 01:11 AM   #7
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niles is my boy tho

 
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Old 09-20-2018, 01:57 AM   #8
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I would hook up with Niles.

Hell, throw in Frasier while yr at it why not

 
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Old 09-20-2018, 07:20 AM   #9
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Niles had the best jokes.

 
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Old 09-20-2018, 09:38 AM   #10
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Hell, throw in Frasier while yr at it why not
Only if I can have a go at Daphne and/or Roz afterwards.

 
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Old 09-20-2018, 09:39 AM   #11
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yeah frasier is just an asshole in real life
He spends a whole chunk of his book whining about how Eddie is the star and people treat him like a real actor and they shouldn't, dammit!

It's hilarious.

 
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Only if I can have a go at Daphne and/or Roz afterwards.
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Old 09-20-2018, 09:41 AM   #13
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You know what else hasn't aged well?

Friends.

 
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Old 09-20-2018, 10:02 AM   #14
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I always liked Friends on the periphery of my regular shows growing up. If it was on, sure, okay, but never made a point to watch it.

 
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Having said that, Ross' "PIVOT" and Joey wearing all of Chandler's clothes at once will never not be funny to me.




 
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Frasier has survived through time pretty gracefully.

I'm rewatching Lost at the moment. It's...OK so far. More comedy moments than I remember.

 
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Old 09-20-2018, 10:27 AM   #17
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I always liked Friends on the periphery of my regular shows growing up. If it was on, sure, okay, but never made a point to watch it.
That's pretty much how I felt about the show, too.

When they added it to Netflix a few years back, I was surprised at just how much gay panic humor was in there. Were the writers trying to tell us something about themselves?

 
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That's pretty much how I felt about the show, too.

When they added it to Netflix a few years back, I was surprised at just how much gay panic humor was in there. Were the writers trying to tell us something about themselves?
oh man, yeah, that's a big part of the un-rewatchability of that show. plus, all the dudes - ALL of them - were absolutely emotionally stunted teenagers.

 
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Old 09-20-2018, 11:23 AM   #19
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all the dudes on the show or all the dudes on this planetoid?

 
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Old 09-20-2018, 11:28 AM   #20
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I meant the main 3

 
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But all dudes on this planet works too

 
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Old 09-20-2018, 12:26 PM   #22
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They just dropped a dope Kevin Spacey/K-Pax joke.

I wish my old flame K Space didn't turn out to be a creep. I miss crushing on him.

 
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Old 09-20-2018, 01:05 PM   #23
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Frasier has survived through time pretty gracefully.

I'm rewatching Lost at the moment. It's...OK so far. More comedy moments than I remember.
Frasier is still pretty funny, yeah. I dunno if you guys ever watched Cheers, but it seems horribly dated now.

Lost is still a pretty impressive show to me in some ways, especially the first 2-3 seasons. The work put into the pilot episode was crazy. BTW, did you know that a lot of the sound fx and even some of the instrumental noises in the "theme song" were done on scrap parts from the airplane they used? I enjoyed it all at the time, but in hindsight the show loses itself in its own ridiculousness after a few seasons and becomes more of a niche science fiction show, whereas earlier they did a lot to make it feel universal like touching on social issues, current events, and playing up the multicultural aspect of the survivors' identities.

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When they added it to Netflix a few years back, I was surprised at just how much gay panic humor was in there. Were the writers trying to tell us something about themselves?
TBH I have always hated Friends. I really don't get the sense of humor I guess because I'm not sure I have ever laughed at a joke on this show. Always kind of seemed like a really watered-down lowest common denominator take on the seinfeld formula (show about nothing, characters are obnoxious).

I idly watched a few episodes with my friend last year and some of the jokes, especially the gay jokes are pretty

 
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Frasier is still pretty funny, yeah. I dunno if you guys ever watched Cheers, but it seems horribly dated now.

Lost is still a pretty impressive show to me in some ways, especially the first 2-3 seasons. The work put into the pilot episode was crazy. BTW, did you know that a lot of the sound fx and even some of the instrumental noises in the "theme song" were done on scrap parts from the airplane they used? I enjoyed it all at the time, but in hindsight the show loses itself in its own ridiculousness after a few seasons and becomes more of a niche science fiction show, whereas earlier they did a lot to make it feel universal like touching on social issues, current events, and playing up the multicultural aspect of the survivors' identities.



TBH I have always hated Friends. I really don't get the sense of humor I guess because I'm not sure I have ever laughed at a joke on this show. Always kind of seemed like a really watered-down lowest common denominator take on the seinfeld formula (show about nothing, characters are obnoxious).

I idly watched a few episodes with my friend last year and some of the jokes, especially the gay jokes are pretty
Friends is kind of like the '90s version of The Big Bang Theory, really.

 
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Old 09-20-2018, 02:10 PM   #26
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yeah i never want to watch either of those. why do ppl watch that when they can watch arrested development or peep show or king of the hill instead?

why?

 
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I remember watching the original AD a few years ago and once it was over i never felt the need to revisit it at all.

There are a few funny scenes that pop into my head, most notably the chicken dance thing. And when the matriarch said "here's some money, go buy a star war or something".

 
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really hate that old roseanne shows have been ruined forever now

sucks to learn someone you thought you liked was actually pretty awful. rip

 
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Old 09-20-2018, 03:34 PM   #29
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I'm on a weird vibe where some things haven't been ruined for me while others have been. No pattern or justification.

 
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yeah i never want to watch either of those. why do ppl watch that when they can watch arrested development or peep show or king of the hill instead?

why?
I mean, when King of the Hill is on the table, all other options seem irrelevant.

That and Futurama.

 
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