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12-20-2014, 04:51 AM | #1 | ||||
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Billboard Interview: 'I'm a Rock Star Because I'm a Great F---ing Musician'
any tips how to erase each and every narcissistic-overload interview I read in the past month from my mind?
this one is getting so ridiculous that it's hard to still find his display of a challenged mental health entertaining. http://www.billboard.com/articles/ne...music-industry Quote:
is there anything left he didn't do first or better or bigger than any of his contemporaries? one band playing AGAINST another band? really, is it all wrestling now Quote:
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12-20-2014, 05:34 AM | #2 |
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ehhh I can dig what Corgans saying. He is one of the only mainstream artist left from his generation still making interesting music.
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12-20-2014, 08:46 AM | #3 |
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12-20-2014, 09:35 AM | #4 |
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Fuck you Billy
Every interview is the same, just incoherent abstract bullshit about the music business make a good record, an actual good record, with an actual good band again and it'll be fine or fuck off and keep complaining |
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12-20-2014, 10:07 AM | #5 |
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Yep, he sounds kind of like a pub bore with this stuff...endless going on about the glory days, and how life never gave them the breaks THEY DESERVED.
STFU, seriously. |
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12-20-2014, 12:51 PM | #6 | |
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Billboard Interview: 'I'm a Rock Star Because I'm a Great F---ing Musician'
http://www.billboard.com/articles/ne...music-industry
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12-20-2014, 01:02 PM | #7 | |
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I didn't notice you already posted this interview, pave.
There's so many things he said that deserve a good tongue lashing but this one caught my eye… Quote:
I almost forgot how fucking obnoxious and elitist he can be. He just seems really confused and hurt so he's starting to lash out at whomever. |
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12-20-2014, 01:05 PM | #8 |
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It happens to every single band. At some point the crowd DOES want to hear your old songs more because yes, there will always come a point where you best work is behind.. I really don't think U2 fills up stadiums ebcause people want to hear Songs of Irrelevance. Or even How to Dismantle an atomic bomb or even All you can't leave behind. Even if yes unlike Corgan they still have comemrcial success with new records. But i'd be willing to bet people roar ten times more at hearing the beginning of where the streets have no name or Pride then they do at the beginning of...whatever title of the new songs. Or even Vertigo.
If you're not ok with that well...you're trying to change how it's always been. Good luck. It sucks to be confronted with the facts the old songs were better, but that's just fact. You've got a choice though, you can call it quits, And now if i understand him..he wishes younger artists would work with him to give him exposure to young people? Maybe they would..if you stopped bitching about how their music sucks. |
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12-20-2014, 01:12 PM | #9 | |
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i mean on the subject of u2 how to dismantle is pretty hit or miss & divisive for such a "return to form" type record, but i think certain tracks on there are as good or better than anything they've ever done. basically i think there's enough people affected by subjectivity and unaffected by "time biases" to justify these sort of bands going on. even if it's not always absolute peak, it can still be exciting to hear what they're doing now of course the band in question challenges that by releasing something as utterly boring & unsurprising as their last album, but they've done it before |
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12-20-2014, 01:36 PM | #10 |
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Yes and no, some songs from certain bands really are just that good that time biases don't really play a part. Tonight, Tonight is probably one of the strongest songs that Billy has ever written, musically and somewhat lyrically, so people young and old are going to feel the emotional pull of it even years later. Which is a good thing, that's a sign of a great song if people still want to listen to it 20 years later.
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12-20-2014, 01:39 PM | #11 | |
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12-20-2014, 01:40 PM | #12 |
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Here's a thought Billy:
If you don't want to play old SP songs, STOP CALLING YOURSELF SMASHING PUMPKINS |
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12-20-2014, 01:51 PM | #13 |
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"It's great being the manager at Starbucks -- I got great insurance."
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12-20-2014, 02:02 PM | #14 |
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We have three threads going where we talk about how stupid Corgan is
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12-20-2014, 02:24 PM | #15 |
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We should write a group letter to Bolly. We netphoria think that...
Of course he's always treated netphoria as a wretched hive of retards and illiteracy....(and a lot of tht is true....but it's not all true) And that's always been his problem i guess. With anyone. He's never been wrong, ever. From what we know of his failed relationships with others, THEY have always been in the wrong. So i have to laugh when he says in that other interview does it sound like i want to be coddled. Yes. You've always wanted to surround yourself with yes men. Criticism is something you absolutely cannot tolerate probably because deep own inside he feels it makes him worthless, if he accepts he did one thing wrong, he must feels it means he's a shit overall. I've lived with someone like this. It's sad. And unsurprisingly, the person like this i knew had major issues in childhood in terms of relationships with parents. Not quite unlike Corgan's... |
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12-20-2014, 02:25 PM | #16 |
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12-20-2014, 02:31 PM | #17 | |
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12-20-2014, 02:39 PM | #18 |
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Hahaha exactly.
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12-20-2014, 02:43 PM | #19 |
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Not as many people buy albums because there are now more convenient ways to listen to music. This is a good thing. Not as many people listen to the same music because there's more music readily available to everyone. Another good thing.
The most offensive thing is Corgan saying releasing a free album was stupid. How much money does this guy need? Is the only reason he makes music to make money? |
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12-20-2014, 02:48 PM | #20 |
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It was stupid for him, because he doesn't get the credit that he was the first one to do it.
So then he thinks it is a waste of money. |
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12-20-2014, 02:53 PM | #21 |
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12-20-2014, 02:58 PM | #22 |
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That's not why artists do things. When you're 21 years old you have something to say and you want people to experience your art. You know how many frankly better artists would die for the kind of exposure Corgan still gets?
But for Corgan it's all about getting credit and making money and not about communicating through art. That's why I can't respect the guy |
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12-20-2014, 02:59 PM | #23 |
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But that's just an example of Billy trying to rewrite his own narrative. He had no idea what was to come, he likes to pretend like he knew all along but he had no fucking clue. There are countless interviews from that time, and somewhat after, where he explains exactly why he did it. It was simply because the label didn't want to spend anymore money on him/the band, and since the band was breaking up he released it as a fuck you to the label. If the label had agreed to release it then he would have never released it for free. Radiohead consciously released their album for free when they were at the top of the alt rock world and when the industry was really starting to feel the impact of people downloading music. It was a complete different set of circumstances and intentions, that's why people make a big deal about Radiohead doing it, because it impacted other artists. Nobody fucking cares who released music for free first, Billy technically wasn't even "the first" to begin with, but that's just not the point anyway.
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12-20-2014, 03:03 PM | #24 |
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Very true |
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12-20-2014, 03:05 PM | #25 |
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Ya, but that is how he sees it. Not worth the investment. He is all about "why invest" these days.
I mean he contradicts himself CONSTANTLY. I really don't understand him. I also don't understand why his dad can't call him up and tell him to shut up. |
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12-20-2014, 03:06 PM | #26 |
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The man deserves his due and I agree he never got it. He's a better musician than Cobain but most are too scared to say it (even Billy won't go there even though he believes it) Hopefully the HOF puts his ass in in a couple years. If Green Day ( who I liked) is in SP is in by miles.
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12-20-2014, 03:14 PM | #27 |
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That's such a lame mentality. Obscurity is something to celebrate in Rock. Being a cult act or something that the mainstream can't appreciate is a badge of honor.
Real rockstars like Kurt complain about being so big, not about how they didn't get enough appreciation |
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12-20-2014, 03:15 PM | #28 |
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Billy may be a better musician that Kurt but Kurt wasn't a slouch. Even Billy recently said there's a few things he wished he had written. Kurt was a very strong songwriter and that shouldn't be taken away from him just because Billy is feeling insecure. There's no reason to put others down just to elevate oneself.
and how would you like him to get his due? Constant headlines? Check. Platinum albums? Check. Headlining festivals? Check. Awards? Check. Seriously though, you do realize that Billy's personality is the type that no matter how many good things he gets it's just never enough for him. I can't even begin to count the number of bands that have been so much more influential than Billy/SP and they never got their due. |
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12-20-2014, 03:28 PM | #29 |
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Yeah SP is on the list with Nirvana of 90's bands that are still in the public discourse of young people. He seriously has nothing to complain about there.
Even my friends who don't like Rock music know who SP are |
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12-20-2014, 03:40 PM | #30 |
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Umm... I didn't put him down by saying Billy's better. Kurt was a great musician as well but a tad overrated in my book.
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