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03-22-2018, 11:43 AM | #1 |
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NYT Interview Is Up
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03-22-2018, 11:51 AM | #2 |
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I helped hook up D'arcy with the writer, glad she gave him a comment.
Really surprised Billy and company barely said anything in response, I was expecting to maybe get a different side of the story. |
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03-22-2018, 11:52 AM | #3 |
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03-22-2018, 11:55 AM | #4 | |
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I do like that new group shot though. |
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03-22-2018, 11:55 AM | #5 |
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“I would say 80 percent of the things that I get sort of held up and mocked for, I’m doing intentionally,” Mr. Corgan said. “It’s sort of funny to me that they actually think I’m that stupid.”
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03-22-2018, 11:55 AM | #6 |
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D'arcy's not coming back then. Ever.
So be it. I look forward to hearing the new music. And if they tour the UK / Ireland, I'll go. |
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03-22-2018, 12:12 PM | #7 |
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03-22-2018, 12:18 PM | #8 | |
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It's really well written, but not that interesting because I just don't have any reason to care what Billy says anymore. Anything positive is likely a lie
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03-22-2018, 12:18 PM | #9 |
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03-22-2018, 12:48 PM | #10 |
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yeah, that's a great photo. would be better without jeff and with d'arcy though
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03-22-2018, 12:52 PM | #11 | |
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03-22-2018, 12:52 PM | #12 | |
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And god Jimmy's just the best
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03-22-2018, 01:00 PM | #13 | |
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It would have been a great opportunity for Corgan to elaborate on what happened with D'arcy. No matter how flimsy his excuse would have been, just discussing it for a few sentences would have gone a long way towards rehabbing the situation. Instead, it just adds credence to all of D'arcy's (already credible) statements.
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03-22-2018, 01:04 PM | #14 |
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(He did, however, mention one grudge that lingered: After the band played its final shows together in 2000, Mr. Corgan proposed renting out the venue Metro in Chicago, “our sort of home temple,” and record a “Let It Be”-style farewell album; Mr. Iha refused.)
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03-22-2018, 01:17 PM | #15 | |
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It's crazy, I would have been so excited to hear of a Billy/James/Jimmy reunion 5 years ago - instead the whole thing leaves me feeling very little thanks to the execution of it all |
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03-22-2018, 01:24 PM | #16 | |
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03-22-2018, 01:25 PM | #17 |
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YeH I wish there was some more juice to this.
Personal highlights: - Billy loves comparing himself to dead icons who can’t defend themselves.him and Kurt were the two great “scribes” of the 90s, and now him and Lou Reed are the two greatest heels?? - when he says “I could say I wrote all the songs and did all the work, but I wont” but you just did dude! |
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03-22-2018, 01:31 PM | #18 | |
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03-22-2018, 01:36 PM | #19 |
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03-22-2018, 01:36 PM | #20 | |
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And I'm still a bit salty Jeff is involved. I know he's been tight with Billy since 2007, and he seems like a good guy, but Corgan's managed to burn bridges with so many other fucking people...why not the one guy who's been the hallmark of bad Pumpkins records? |
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03-22-2018, 01:52 PM | #21 | |
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Point being, this tour seems to be about sticking to the oldies,and I would assume, playing them as closely to the album as possible. If Jeff "sticks to the script," I actually think we might have an opportunity to hear some really great live versions of old songs. If it ends up like the 2016 shows, where Jeff just plays scales over Billy and James to feel like he belongs, I'll be pissed. Just re-read the NYT article. I would say this most interesting thing was that James was the one who reached to Billy. |
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03-22-2018, 01:53 PM | #22 |
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03-22-2018, 02:30 PM | #23 |
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all this article demonstrates is that the pumpkins were never quite as truly big as other rock arena bands, like guns and roses as an example. they were a strange alternative band that had a huge moment for a few years.. so a reunion without darcy stage is ultimately not going to get them anywhere.
and if we're being completely honest about darcy here, yeah, there was plenty of empircal evidence that it wasn't a wise idea to bring her out on the road. it's amazing and wonderful that she's finally calling Corgan out on his bullshit years later, but i don't think Corgan was wrong in his having doubts of her coming back after not being on stage since 1999. could he have handled it better? yes. could she have handled it better? yes. bridge burned forever? i said 'asshole' out loud after reading that. but he's said the same about courtney love many times before and low and behold they're buds again. |
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03-22-2018, 02:31 PM | #24 |
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He'll rebuild that bridge when Reunion 2.0 is nice and marketable and absolutely unavoidable.
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03-22-2018, 02:36 PM | #25 | |
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...and yet he didn't even meet her to see for himself how she was doing musically, physically and mentally. |
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03-22-2018, 02:48 PM | #26 |
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Lmao at James hair. How is it so fucking thick. I've never even seen a chick with hair that thick.
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03-22-2018, 02:51 PM | #27 |
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Is it me or the interview kind of says nothing really.
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03-22-2018, 02:59 PM | #28 |
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The interview has kind of a subtle anti-Billy vibe. There's some good stuff in there, but I think I could have gotten more out of him. He seemed very guarded.
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03-22-2018, 03:00 PM | #29 |
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03-22-2018, 03:02 PM | #30 |
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Also Corgan started reciting lyrics from the new album during the interview? That seems compulsive.
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