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04-08-2008, 05:30 PM | #1 |
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LMA: 1993-10-05 Minneapolis, MN
This is one of my favorite shows. Very energetic, hilarious banter, Pissant.
http://www.archive.org/details/tsp1993-10-05.ss.flac16 THE SMASHING PUMPKINS 1993-10-05 First Avenue Minneapolis, MN, USA Source: Sonic Studios mics > DAT Transfer: DAT-? > Tascam DA-20 MK II > Terratec EWX 24/96 > FLAC V1.2.1 Editing: Fades in Audiofile Engineering Wave Editor V1.3.3 Resampling: 32.0 kHz > 44.1 kHz resampling using iZotope 64-bit SRC Disc 1: 01 (Intro) 02 Rocket 03 Quiet 04 Today 05 Disarm 06 > I Am One 07 Spaceboy 08 Geek U.S.A. 09 Hummer 10 Soma 11 Siva 12 Cherub Rock 13 (Encore Break #1) 14 [Fade Out] Disc 2: 01 [Fade In] 02 Starla 03 Pissant 04 (Encore Break #2) 05 (Improv) 06 Silverfuck > When You Wish Upon a Star [Washington/Harline] (tease) > Over the Rainbow [Harburg/Arlen] (tease) 07 > Sweet Sweet Notes: To seamlessly join the two discs, simply remove D1T14 and D2T01. |
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04-08-2008, 05:37 PM | #2 |
Immortal
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thanks! I love this version of Pissant
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04-08-2008, 05:38 PM | #3 |
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Good work sir! |
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04-08-2008, 10:16 PM | #4 |
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Thanks, Sebastian! I really like this show too and it will be nice to have a copy with known transfer lineage.
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04-08-2008, 11:12 PM | #5 |
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thanks
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04-09-2008, 12:05 AM | #6 |
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Totally aw-sum, possum.
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04-09-2008, 09:47 AM | #7 |
Ownz
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Great, thank you!
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04-09-2008, 10:54 AM | #8 |
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Wow, I forgot just how good this show was.
"Mr. Motherfucking Jimmy Chamberlin on the Motherfucking Ass Motherfucking drums!" |
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04-09-2008, 01:40 PM | #9 |
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This is the copy I have of the show so am I assuming the lineage is going to be similar to this one? Is this the same source for the show as I see yours has an intro on it whereas the copy I have doesn't
The Smashing Pumpkins First Avenue Minneapolis, MN, US 1993-10-05 --------------------- Disc 1: 01) Rocket 02) Quiet 03) Today 04) Disarm 05) I Am One (with rant) 06) Spaceboy 07) Geek U.S.A. 08) Hummer 09) Soma 10) Siva 11) Cherub Rock 12) Starla Disc 2: 01) Pissant (unknown instrumental) 02) Silverfuck > When You Wish Upon a Star [Washington/Harline] (tease) > Over the Rainbow [Harburg/Arlen] (tease) 03) Sweet Sweet -------------------- Source: AUD > DAT [SSmic>??] > DDC(?) > CDR > EAC > WAV > FLAC (complete) -------------------- Notes: Previously circulating copy was incomplete from a boot CD ('Feeling Like A Smashed Pumpkin') where as this particular version (Which is most likely from the same source) is complete. Also, this show was played exactly 5 years after the first Metro show. This is the complete 90m version instead of the circulating incomplete 70m version. -------------------- A very large thank you goes out to Ziggy [http://castastone.org] for letting this show out. (Distributed June 2005 by quandar) |
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04-09-2008, 01:57 PM | #10 |
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Wow, tons of silly samples inbetween songs in this show. Did they do this a lot in SD era? I'm sure I haven't heard any other boots with this on so much from 93/94.
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04-09-2008, 02:02 PM | #11 |
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this show was hard to find?
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04-09-2008, 02:37 PM | #12 | |
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I really don't know. I've had this for years... I just recently browsed through the tour history at SPFC and remembered that show, so I just transferred it. But then again I am not really the person in the know about which recordings have "surfaced" and which recordings haven't... |
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04-09-2008, 05:53 PM | #13 |
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04-09-2008, 03:08 PM | #14 |
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WHAT KINDA BOX YOU TALKIN ABOUT, MAN?
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04-09-2008, 03:33 PM | #15 |
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use the downthemall add-on for firefox. if you only want the flac files (or only mp3, or only the flac + txt + md5 files, whatever), you can use filters for an easy selection of files it should download.
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04-09-2008, 06:07 PM | #16 |
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For the DownThemAll filter, this should work /\.(?:flac|md5|ffp|txt)$/i.
Without knowing the exact history behind this recording, I would say this is a definite upgrade for the following reasons: 1) No CDR Lineage. 2) resampling using iZotope 64-bit SRC 3) Non-destructive Fades 4) Sebastian knows his shit Spaldz... does your source also have an included EAC log file? If not, saying something was ripped "Securely in EAC" doesn't mean much. The txt file you've pasted doesn't even list the orignal DAT material being at 32 kHz, the program used for resampling, how it was tracked and if SBE's are an issue, or even the version of FLAC used for encoding. pzane |
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04-09-2008, 06:09 PM | #17 | |
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04-09-2008, 06:24 PM | #18 |
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04-09-2008, 07:59 PM | #19 |
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04-10-2008, 01:31 AM | #20 | |
oh for fuck's sake
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I do. No one knew what EAC was back then outside of jam band traders - found out about it via DAT-Heads of course. Finding someone that knew about and used EAC back then was a godsend. Nowadays, it's common place. |
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04-10-2008, 02:23 AM | #21 |
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04-10-2008, 11:25 AM | #22 |
oh for fuck's sake
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04-10-2008, 12:50 PM | #23 | |
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This was all less than 10 years ago. Amazing. |
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04-12-2008, 02:55 AM | #24 |
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Very nice, thanks for sharing.
I think I probably know who taped this but at least 3-4 (that I know of) 90's era Minneapolis tapers had Sonic Studios. |
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05-06-2008, 02:47 PM | #25 |
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04-10-2008, 02:21 AM | #26 | |
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While I'll grant you that FLAC version info is on the 'nice to know side,' it's still good practice to document the version and build of any program you're using to process critical data. Here's a few more reasons...
While all versions of FLAC are lossless, the codec has been gradually improved over the years. Compression ratios are better and the overall process, both for compression and decompression upon playback, is faster! Several security vulnerabilities have been identified that would allow the execution of malicious code contained within FLAC files. Fixes were implemented for these vulnerabilities in v1.2.1. I've been going through all of the 2007 shows uploaded on LMA and there is one recording in particular with six ratings and an average of two stars. The first comment reads: Quote:
Third party compatibility can always be an issue; in the case of the LMA, they just can't afford the coding changes required to adopt FLAC v1.2.x anytime soon. As Andrew mentions, our protocols and standards have changed over time. In the past, you laid out any expectations of quality (typically type II, yudens, and 4x max!!!) and dealt with the material you were given. Andrew probably has the best collection of recordings with known sources, if not the best collection outright! He's always been highly selective of the material he trades for and is incredibly faithful to proper documentation and care of his enviable collection. I'd like to again emphasize that Sebastian's release, based on paper, simply has to be an improvement. Check out the graphs for Izotope's 64-bit SRC, they're pristine! Even if the DAT > CDR > EAC process was performed perfectly, I have to doubt the SRC used even comes close to the accuracy of Izotope. There are undoubtedly hundreds of shows on CDR that could, in the ears of an audiophile, be improved upon simply by retransferring a 32 or 48 kHz DAT and using modern day, high quality SRC algorithms.
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05-07-2008, 02:19 PM | #27 | |
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