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11-18-2014, 11:46 PM | #211 |
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Either way, whatever, I got it today, played it through my very standard car stereo and it sounded noticeably different (better) than all the web versions we've heard.
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11-18-2014, 11:51 PM | #212 |
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11-18-2014, 11:52 PM | #213 | |
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It's not illegal or anything since the songs are already on youtube. pumpkins camp don't care |
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11-18-2014, 11:57 PM | #214 |
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How long is this record, like 35 minutes? I think it might actually be pretty good all together. At least it won't be so grating to listen to. Ugh I really hope this thing doesn't suck. |
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Popular music lyrics can be a tough one, especially in modern music. I personally don't think it has anything to do with age. I think Leonard Cohen is a great lyricist. But he started off as more of a poet before becoming a singer/songwriter, same with Patti Smith. This is an overused example, but a song like Hallelujah is beautifully written and translates well to song. Good poets and writers take the time to really think about each line and each word that they use (including the overall structure, rhythm, symbolism, and imagery). Strange Fruit is another one that was originally written as a poem and then structured into lyrics, which was then beautifully sung by Billie Holiday. Billy's change in lyrics is not from a lack of skill, I think, but he has admitted (in an old blog post somewhere) that the criticism he received from his foray into the world of poetry completely changed the way he wrote, he became really self-conscious and struggled with writing lyrics. |
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11-18-2014, 11:58 PM | #216 |
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11-19-2014, 12:05 AM | #217 |
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the more i listen to tiberius the more i like it, which was the case with both being beige and one and all. tiberius in particular is easy to get into. listening to these three in the context of the album is what interests me most, though. i wanna get my hands on all 9 tracks already
anybody think a 4th track will be released? that would be nearly half the album at that point, so i'm sort of hoping not. i'd like there to be some surprises remaining on december 9th |
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There was a time I've laughed Was a time I've cried You didn't want me back You didn't want me back While the others burnt black I'll need either an album booklet with the lyrics, or someone to spell them out for me, though. not sure why, but I'm having more trouble understanding them than usually. Burnt Orange-Black I heard live, and could have sworn it's "let the others turn back" One and All isn't much different, thematically I just say when you love him 'Cause you and me we are running Baby sweet, are we arrest in cuff I don't save for rainy days Can't just care what you're doing Me and you, we're just ruined Just a cheat for the morning strong Don't ya mind, if it's me at all Last edited by pavementtune : 11-19-2014 at 12:15 AM. |
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11-19-2014, 12:19 AM | #219 | |
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MP3s. Deal with it. I'm uploading this with the belief that the material contained within is freely available and therefor does not qualify as "unreleased". If I'm wrong then I apologize and mods should just delete it. |
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11-19-2014, 12:22 AM | #220 |
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that was fast
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11-19-2014, 12:24 AM | #221 | |
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all three tracks are on SP's youtube channel, and likely a lot of people rip them there so... leave it until someone complains, I guess? |
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11-19-2014, 12:27 AM | #222 |
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There's a lot of incomprehensible lines in there, but it seems very personal from the few that do make some sense…which may explain why the lyrics are so incomprehensible at times for these songs. Sometimes being vague and nonsensical is a means to protect oneself. It reminds me of that strange blog post where he talked about the lyrics, claiming that they're not about anyone in particular before we even knew what the lyrics were. He seems to avoid wanting to talk about the lyrics for this album in interviews as well. Very strange.
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11-19-2014, 12:29 AM | #223 |
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11-19-2014, 12:32 AM | #224 | |
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it's not only that I don't get parts of it, I don't HEAR it correctly, even after listening to one song several times. you mean he's deliberately singing in a way that makes it harder to understand every word? not so sure if it's not related to one particular person after all (and after that Howard Stern interview, who can blame him for not wanting to go through that topic again), but it would also make sense to me as a midlife summary - troubled relationships, break-ups and heartaches of 20 years mixed together, who knows. |
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11-19-2014, 12:41 AM | #226 |
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it's not how he writes? I can't tell since Zeitgeist "how" he writes. and I can't imagine that one's past doesn't play into how you phrase songs about loss, love and leaving.
anyway, that's going in an over-interpretating direction I don't really enjoy myself. All I was trying to say is, whatever vague things these few songs are about - if they are ABOUT anything at all and not just a word play and "came to him instantly while singing a melody" - they aren't so ridiculous or so extremely vague that I couldn't relate to any of it. After teargarden and most of Oceania, that's a step up in my book. |
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11-19-2014, 12:45 AM | #227 |
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http://i.imgur.com/H9bT7P6.png One and All http://i.imgur.com/VLtBRMW.png That's gotta be some kind of a joke |
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I meant that in the sense that he tends to write about immediate things. The title itself points towards some kind of deep loss, something very mournful to him. Writing a mid-life summary of all his relationships strikes me as impersonal, odd and out of character. But you're right, it doesn't matter what it's about, what matters is that there's some deep meaning coming from him, that it means something to him. Quote:
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11-19-2014, 12:55 AM | #229 |
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Is someone going to upload the sampler in flac or what?
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Yes. There's just really lazy writing for someone who thinks of himself (or at least used to) as a great writer. He's well read too, so I think he can do better. |
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11-19-2014, 03:43 AM | #232 | |
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11-19-2014, 05:03 AM | #233 |
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Man this albums shaping up to be something pretty special. I'm just loving Tiberius. That "goes and goes" hook is classic Corgan and that lead guitar that kicks in during the hook just sounds so epic. Tommy sounds fucking great too.
These last 2 songs are right up there with some of the best Z stuff. |
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11-19-2014, 05:04 AM | #234 |
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So it begs the question, is Being Beige just the outlier or are these last 2 songs just the clear-cut best songs on the album and the rest of the stuff harkens back to B-B?
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11-19-2014, 10:15 AM | #235 |
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Pee pee poo poo.
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11-19-2014, 10:21 AM | #236 | |
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It's track 2 on this sampler CD and it's position there helps it out a lot. |
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11-19-2014, 10:25 AM | #237 |
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Even listening to Being Beige with the other two helps it.
The only real issue I have with it is still the dropped vowels and the tinny 808s or whatever the drums are in the quiet section. |
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11-19-2014, 03:21 PM | #238 | |
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11-19-2014, 03:39 PM | #239 |
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I don't get why people bitch about the compression thing anymore. If it's a modern mainstream record, chances are it's going to clip like a bitch.
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11-19-2014, 03:44 PM | #240 | |
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just because something's the "status quo" doesn't mean it's not worth railing against some records just weren't meant to be smashed (npi ) |
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