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Old 04-13-2024, 12:38 AM   #1
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Default Vault-like Subscription Model

Why has BC never bothered with something like this?

https://thirdmanrecords.com/products/vault-subscription

https://www.discogs.com/label/307889...s-Vault?page=1

Ability to find out what the fans want prior to production. Only produce the quantity that's ordered. Sell for a price that guarantees it's profitable.

Seems like an easy, low risk way to make fans happy. (Maybe that's the issue?)

 
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Old 04-13-2024, 02:17 AM   #2
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SPRC was something like that, wasn't it?

 
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Old 04-13-2024, 02:31 AM   #3
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The Ego is fragile and feeds on control.

 
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Old 04-13-2024, 03:13 AM   #4
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SPRC was something like that, wasn't it?
Wasn’t that just a few mp3s released sporadically?

 
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Old 04-13-2024, 04:02 AM   #5
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Yeah, but I thought the original project was supposed to eventually release hard copies too.

 
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Old 04-13-2024, 04:26 AM   #6
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Third Man Vault is a labor of love from someone who's 100% invested in music and art. For all we know, it might not even be lucrative at all (licensing Bob freaking Dylan and Syd Barrett must have cost a pretty penny)

Willy Parrick Cargan doesn't give a fuck about music and would much rather be a businessman ("I'm a free-market libertarian capitalist" lol), hence the cheapskate impresario, cutting corners, bits and shits

 
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Old 04-13-2024, 07:30 AM   #7
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William is more interested to sell us his sorted out records from his old vinyls collection at his tea shop...

 
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Old 04-13-2024, 08:23 AM   #8
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Forgot all about SPRC. Another one thrown on the ever growing scrapheap of abandoned projects.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...DzWoChkE9iZHjL

But yeah, a cool idea, but Big Willy C doesn't care about it. Maybe throw a note to his social media manager, he might pay attention then.

 
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Old 04-13-2024, 12:02 PM   #9
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willy might have found out that the demand for his vaults is not profitable.... can't risk hurting his ego.

 
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Old 04-13-2024, 06:22 PM   #10
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Maybe throw a note to his social media manager, he might pay attention then.
After bitching long enough about the postage prices at Zuzu’s and seeing them change, I feel like we’re already being watched.

 
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Old 04-13-2024, 08:59 PM   #11
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Forgot all about SPRC. Another one thrown on the ever growing scrapheap of abandoned projects.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...DzWoChkE9iZHjL

But yeah, a cool idea, but Big Willy C doesn't care about it. Maybe throw a note to his social media manager, he might pay attention then.
Such a missed opportunity, least we got a few cool demos from it. Wonder what happened behind the scenes here, fair to say plans were made then fell apart

 
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Old 04-13-2024, 09:49 PM   #12
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Third Man Vault is a labor of love from someone who's 100% invested in music and art. For all we know, it might not even be lucrative at all (licensing Bob freaking Dylan and Syd Barrett must have cost a pretty penny)

Willy Parrick Cargan doesn't give a fuck about music and would much rather be a businessman ("I'm a free-market libertarian capitalist" lol), hence the cheapskate impresario, cutting corners, bits and shits
It doesn't need to be some "secret club" with tiered subscriptions and shit. It could just be as simple as:

First 100 presale orders get an autographed copy, remaining 400 copies will go on Zuzus.

Plus, stop with all the weird gimmicks. Release professional, consistent looking products that fit on collector's shelves. No one wants a fucking candle in the record collection. We are music fans, not crap hoarders.

 
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Old 04-14-2024, 10:27 AM   #13
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Such a missed opportunity, least we got a few cool demos from it. Wonder what happened behind the scenes here, fair to say plans were made then fell apart
It was around the same time that the Gish and Siamese Dream reissues were released, I remember Frail and Bedazzled was like a "thank you" download for preordering them. Perhaps these were intended to be teasers to coerce you into buying the reissue, or maybe they were afterthought tracks. Or maybe BC just didn't want to give stuff away for free after Teargarden didn't work.

Either that, or like most projects, he got bored and forgot about it.

 
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Old 04-14-2024, 10:37 AM   #14
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After bitching long enough about the postage prices at Zuzu’s and seeing them change, I feel like we’re already being watched.
There were already many people wanting them to do more CD releases and cheaper shipping costs outside the States in the comment section on ZuZu's Instagram site.

But I was the only one asking also for a next bunch of the MACHINA reissue box set published on 1st of April...

 
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Old 04-14-2024, 11:42 AM   #15
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There’s such a wealth of SP live/demo material already out there that there’s probably not much point.

 
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Old 04-14-2024, 02:57 PM   #16
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It doesn't need to be some "secret club" with tiered subscriptions and shit. It could just be as simple as:

First 100 presale orders get an autographed copy, remaining 400 copies will go on Zuzus.
"professional, consistent looking products that fit on collector's shelves" you say. Sure, sure thing buddy, why not.

Chloe! Hey Chloe! Bringe me some of those piece a shit old photographs. These fuckers will think it's Riverview all over again!

[laughs in oriental]

 
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Old 04-15-2024, 07:42 AM   #17
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Good ol billy bolly barcy is more interested in wressli.
Forget music, i have zero interest listrning to any sp album from machina onwards.

The quality is shit, so is his voice, instrumentations, mixing, oroducing etc.etc...

 
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Old 04-15-2024, 10:22 AM   #18
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i understand your anger toward Billy Bob, but surely you meant after Machina???

brotha.... please......

 
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Old 04-15-2024, 12:20 PM   #19
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Fuckin'-A, brothel

The fact that they sat on a gem like HTTAB...

Fuckin Willy Wonka Golden Ticket winner beellee cargin

 
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