Would MCIS be any different in standard instead of Eb?

[Ram27]

i’ve been focusing on guitar a lot in quarantine and it’s really fucking annoying having that whole era be off limits unless i can be arsed to downtune my guitar

like would it sell different? feel different to any major degree?

[Killly_Borgan]

Originally Posted by Ram27

i’ve been focusing on guitar a lot in quarantine and it’s really fucking annoying having that whole era be off limits unless i can be arsed to downtune my guitar

like would it sell different? feel different to any major degree?

I think Corgan downtunes his guitar to accommodate his vocal range, though I have also heard Eb described as feeling "more minor(key)" feeling, than standard.

I don't think it has anything to do with how it would sell, but feel? Yes, to the people/person writing it.

[Butt Pope]

If I were in F-Sharp-Major, would my records sell?

[BurtSampson]

It's not really that hard to downtune your guitar half a step...

and yes, it would feel different. Eb feels more melancholy because it's more minor, and it can also make songs heavier - see Fuck You, Bullet, Zero etc

[Cool As Ice Cream]

yes, rambotwentyseven, you fookin' crybaby. just downtune your guitar.
or don't, and find out if it feels differently immediately.

lazy, lazy, lazy

[Disco King]

Originally Posted by BurtSampson

It's not really that hard to downtune your guitar half a step...

and yes, it would feel different. Eb feels more melancholy because it's more minor, and it can also make songs heavier - see Fuck You, Bullet, Zero etc

Nah, dude. In order to make your songs more minor, you gotta buy a minor guitar.

Rambo probably has a major guitar. Or if it's a starter one, a pentatonic guitar.

[redbreegull]

real ones play locrian guitars only

[paranoid]

try the songs in standard see how it makes you feel.

[redbreegull]

Originally Posted by Ram27

i’ve been focusing on guitar a lot in quarantine and it’s really fucking annoying having that whole era be off limits unless i can be arsed to downtune my guitar

like would it sell different? feel different to any major degree?

but real answer: I say yes. maybe not to someone unfamiliar with the songs, but IMO MCIS forward starts to have a subtly darker sound than the earlier, primarily standard tuned stuff.

if you practice changing tunings often, you will get quite fast and accurate at dropping the strings a half step and bringing them back up. but also, no it doesn't matter if you play 1979 in standard

[FoolofaTook]

ramboi tune down half a step and then just plonk on a capo if you want to move back to standard

[redbreegull]

what's underrated is actually tuning up a step

[cork_soaker]

a capo at Fret One is pure buffoonery

a double-necked guitar is the only reasonable solution, ramm27'd

[Joey Goldberg]

Originally Posted by cork_soaker

a capo at Fret One is pure buffoonery

a double-necked guitar is the only reasonable solution, ramm27'd

you turned down Took's suggestion & spoke 2 his obsession

[redbreegull]

the real magic comes with getting a microtonal guitar and playing a quarter step down my dudes

[FoolofaTook]

Originally Posted by Joey Goldberg

you turned down Took's suggestion & spoke 2 his obsession

[Ram27]

Originally Posted by redbreegull

but real answer: I say yes. maybe not to someone unfamiliar with the songs, but IMO MCIS forward starts to have a subtly darker sound than the earlier, primarily standard tuned stuff.

if you practice changing tunings often, you will get quite fast and accurate at dropping the strings a half step and bringing them back up. but also, no it doesn't matter if you play 1979 in standard

hmm, wow, never thought of it as being a practicable thing. i was trying to save up to get a jaguar instead lol

i can do low E histrionics by ear easily but anything else is 🥴. i tried to tune my acoustic to play 33 and broke a string. it must've been a sine

[Disco King]

Originally Posted by redbreegull

what's underrated is actually tuning up a step

As is done by Johnny Marr and other black metal musicians

[Disco King]

Somebody please 'shoop Marr with corpse paint

[Disco King]

And PM it to Elphenor.

[buzzard]

The Johnny Marr Jaguar doesn't even have all the buttons!

You're hardly going to nail Dunkelheit without switchable pickup combinations even if you do pop a capo in the second onto a set of nines.

[trev]

Originally Posted by Joey Goldberg

you turned down Took's suggestion & spoke 2 his obsession

but.. that's not a double neck guitar...

[FoolofaTook]

[Joey Goldberg]

Originally Posted by trev

but.. that's not a double neck guitar...

yes... it....... is..........

...

[FoolofaTook]

What trev wanted to say is "It's not a double neck guitar. it's a double neck guitar played by a japanese heavy rock doom lord!!"

[FoolofaTook]

trev's a good guy. he just needs a little help sometimes.

like your dad.

[redbreegull]

Originally Posted by Ram27

hmm, wow, never thought of it as being a practicable thing. i was trying to save up to get a jaguar instead lol

you'll totally get it with practice. this was something that used to be daunting to me as well and I would avoid changing tunings a lot because it was a pain in the ass. obviously I don't tune by ear primarily, but yeah just practice that shit and you'll have it in no time.

i think it decreases string life but eh you only live once

[trev]

it's clearly a half guitar half bass. you wouldn't call it a double neck bass would you, but that's the same as calling it a double neck guitar.

[redbreegull]

your mom is a half guitar half bass

[FoolofaTook]

ur dad is all ass tho

[redbreegull]

yo your mom got two necks as well