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10-21-2016, 06:40 AM | #91 | |
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10-21-2016, 09:06 AM | #92 |
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10-21-2016, 11:09 AM | #93 |
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At the risk of being ostracised, but IMHO the live DVD from If All Goes Wrong is the best post-reunion release. Especially the 5 acoustic bonus rehearsal songs, Mama + Peace & Love are perfect..
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10-21-2016, 11:11 AM | #94 |
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Lyrics are gonna make or break this one
Hopefully he put some fuckn work into em this time |
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10-21-2016, 06:08 PM | #95 |
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You should ask Billy that one since he was the one excited and promoting it like some awesome thing to have Tommy Lee on a Smashing Pumpkins, whoops I mean The Billy Corgan Experience record.
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10-21-2016, 06:10 PM | #96 | |
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You should ask Billy that one since he was the one excited and promoting it like some awesome thing to have Tommy Lee on a Smashing Pumpkins, whoops I mean The Billy Corgan Experience record. |
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10-21-2016, 06:11 PM | #97 |
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Billy is happy to have any retro drummer in his band it would seem.
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10-22-2016, 12:20 AM | #98 |
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You know, I've never felt his song writing has ever really declined. There have been a few clunker songs here and there(Widow Wake My Mind, etc), but any artist will naturally have good ones and bad ones when you have a catalog of a thousand songs. For the most part, his riffs, progressions, ideas, approaches and lyric writing is almost always solid. I actually credit a lot of the bad vibes of his work in recent years to Mike Byrne, Tommy Lee, and producers without that "Pumpkin" feel.
The one thing Billy's been getting wrong since 2000, in my opinion, is his attempt to work in vibrato into his vocals. It led to all the dropped consonants, the shaky/weak attack, and the loss of emotion. In short, it just doesn't sound like "Billy Corgan." He sounds like he's trying to sing like someone else. His pre-2000 singing style didn't try to make up for the fact that he wasn't a great vocalist... it highlighted his strengths. His screams, his fragile/angelic softness, and the dynamic switch between the two... it just worked for him and the lyrics he tends to write. It was endearing, pleading, expressive and weirdly relatable. But nowadays, it just makes me cringe. I'm sure it's a tick he's developed over time, and even if he wanted to get rid of the vibrato, it'd be almost impossible to stop. But I really wish he'd put in the work to see if he could break from it. |
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10-22-2016, 12:26 AM | #99 | |
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10-22-2016, 12:26 AM | #100 |
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how, in serious candidness, can you say mellon collie and monuments are on the same tier in terms of songwriting
on dead highways her black beauties roam for june angels so far from home for a lover, a faded picture to tread lightning, to ink the lavender sky vs. run to me run to me run to me run to me |
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10-22-2016, 12:54 AM | #101 | |
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10-22-2016, 01:03 AM | #102 |
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Rick Rubin... God, Mr Bill is really trying hard to get back to appealing to the mainstream younger generation. Maybe next album, after this one fails too, he'll try Timbaland. Or Pharrell!!! Yeah that should work!!
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10-22-2016, 01:25 AM | #103 | |
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I remember in 2015 he did a duet with Marilyn Manson, just as a joke, and he sounded like his old self I guess he thinks the new vox sound good for some reason? |
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10-22-2016, 04:12 AM | #104 |
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10-22-2016, 04:14 AM | #105 |
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Is there any chance this won't all be sappy? If he can edge it up a bit it could be pretty cool
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10-22-2016, 05:40 AM | #106 |
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land of maybe this will have a half decent song on it but don't get your hopes up
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10-22-2016, 06:05 AM | #107 |
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oi monty where's the leaks mate
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10-22-2016, 08:46 AM | #108 |
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10-22-2016, 10:27 AM | #109 |
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Rick if I write you a check will you sleep on the couch so I can put your name on my album, I really need the PR.
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10-22-2016, 12:03 PM | #110 |
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Wtf is a soft porn novel?
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10-22-2016, 03:30 PM | #111 |
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run2me is better than Death From Above fight me
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10-22-2016, 04:35 PM | #112 |
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Can't get worse than Astral Planes either way
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10-22-2016, 08:01 PM | #113 |
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Spangled by the nighttime sky
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10-23-2016, 12:31 AM | #114 |
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10-23-2016, 01:19 AM | #115 |
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It should be called 'The Land of Gay Baby' - Billy Corgan w/ Auggie Jup on drums
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10-23-2016, 05:41 PM | #116 |
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I wonder how Jonathan Monte feels about all this. He must be in a fine state of nervous tension, his senses acutely sharpened by keen anticipation, his rectum puckered in anxious yearning.
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10-23-2016, 06:07 PM | #117 |
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More like The Land of Maybe it'll be released. Amirite?
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10-23-2016, 06:36 PM | #118 |
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Meanwhile, someone should send this video to Billy so he won't repeat his mistakes anymore!
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10-23-2016, 08:05 PM | #119 |
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10-23-2016, 10:54 PM | #120 |
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i dunno about you guys but i will give this album an honest shot.
if there's a shot of billy's music being decent again, it's this record. |
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