why pale horse is awesome

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by scottytheoneand

this was the best TBK song by far

sounds like something some douche would write/play/record in a night from his dorm room

[TuralyonW3]

Originally Posted by sniffingchimp

Would love to hear a proper recording of "The World's Fair", sincere, great lyrics and he sang with conviction, albeit softly.

Great post by the way, Slunken.

This...love worlds fair

[Spira|_]

I cant like chicago songs, I cant believe u enjoy it so much. It lacks melody for me...

[sjpaterra]

am i the only one that noticed how similar pale horse and mina loy are? in particular, pale horse's opening riff/melody and that part of mina loy at the end "im just one wish away/im just one wish away from you, kid"...

Also, what the fuck is with the THORAZINE line? i hate when billy just unnecessarily repeats the same lyrics over and over again.... THORAZINE THORAZINE THORAZINE




...THORAZINE

PLEASE COME BACK
PLEASE COME BACK
PLEASE COME BACK
PLEASE COME BACK........... PALE HAAAAARSE

but this band is going to be doing some signings according to facebook, so, thats cool, i have some vinyl that needs to be signed! and a billy corgan strat

[SPLATTER]

i tend to agree with the alt-countryish kinda acoustic-ey whaterver thing being a good avenue to pursue ... but wasn't that what he was going for with american gothic? i fear that if he tried to go there like he did with that thing, he'd over-think it and turn out all american gothicey

[paranoid]

The riff in this song is like a slower owata.

[Monet LSD]

Originally Posted by paranoid

The riff in this song is like a slower owata.

Yeah, I was trying to put my finger on this. The main riff is the same as the vocal "Oh what a beautiful night".

[sjpaterra]

yeah i guess youre right about owata, too... i didnt realize because that song sucks and i never listened much to the teargarden version... but 20th anniversary versions were great

[TheAeroplane]

pale horse is not awesome, it's just... good.

[duovamp]

Pale Horse is awesome because it might be a reference to the movie Tombstone.

[slunken]

Originally Posted by SPLATTER

i tend to agree with the alt-countryish kinda acoustic-ey whaterver thing being a good avenue to pursue ... but wasn't that what he was going for with american gothic? i fear that if he tried to go there like he did with that thing, he'd over-think it and turn out all american gothicey

i think the problem with everything post-2000 is that it's not given enought time to marinate and gain substance. even zwan's lifecycle was cut pretty short.

it's like he has one idea and if it doens't immediately change the world it's back to the drawing board for the next big change of direction.

[slunken]

Originally Posted by spidrr

curious what your all time fav pumpkins songs are...

it's not the cyber-metal that's for sure

[hafsteinn]

Originally Posted by slunken

i think the problem with everything post-2000 is that it's not given enought time to marinate and gain substance. even zwan's lifecycle was cut pretty short.

it's like he has one idea and if it doens't immediately change the world it's back to the drawing board for the next big change of direction.

i

[bozo]

Originally Posted by sjpaterra

THORAZINE THORAZINE THORAZINE

What's funny is if you google:

lyrics pale horse pumpkins

...almost all of the top hits say the chorus is 'Fluorescein'

Which is absolutely retarded because Thorazine is an anti-depressent and Fluorescein is just a fucking dye.

[scottytheoneand]

Originally Posted by bozo

What's funny is if you google:

lyrics pale horse pumpkins

...almost all of the top hits say the chorus is 'Fluorescein'

on some of the live show USBs last year it sounded as if billy was singing "fluorescein" not thorazine. the lyrics got transcribed that way on some blogs and I think a few lyrics websites. Why he was singing it that way i don't know. In one of the USBs I have he sounds like he's singing Fluorescein for all but the last word in the chorus where he switches to Thorazine.

"Flurazine" (similar pronounciation) is also an antipsychotic drug.



at least it's not "special K"

[Funky_Gibbon]

Originally Posted by reprise85

also i'm digging that there are few/almost no really cringe inducing lyrics on this album (maybe the i'll kiss anyone thing)... i mean, i just listened to american gothic and every other line is embarrassing

Not sure I agree with that. There's a few lyrics in here that make me cringe like

"But I will be special k" (I know it's probably a ketamine reference but I can't seeing the breakfast cereal in my head...)

"God right on!
Krishna right on!
Mark right on!
Yod He Vau He Om
Let’s ride on!
Right on!
Let’s ride on!" ughhh...

"Fairy tales and tiny whales" or whatever it is he's singing...


However I agree with Slunken's OP, the stripped back largely effects free music is by far the best stuff he's been creating in the last decade or so.

[slunken]

i thought the dye-tracing connection had been confirmed though in one of his EFHTT posts

[TheNightMare]

Billy has an affinity for songs with horses in the title.

[slunken]

or he means whores like how tour is pronounced like tewer alternate ava adore lyrics early working version its you that i divorce you will always have your horse and it might be about darcy guitar pick micropenis loveboat eyes guy

[slunken]

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[soniclovenoize]

Originally Posted by slunken

i thought the dye-tracing connection had been confirmed though in one of his EFHTT posts

This. I thought Corgan already elaborated the song is about chemicals in the Chicago water... or something like that.

either way, best song on the album, best song he's done since Zwan.

[Cool As Ice Cream]

lol who is jeff schroeder?

[The Pump King]

[Rocket Launcher]

Originally Posted by sjpaterra

Also, what the fuck is with the THORAZINE line? i hate when billy just unnecessarily repeats the same lyrics over and over again.... THORAZINE THORAZINE THORAZINE


...THORAZINE

PLEASE COME BACK
PLEASE COME BACK
PLEASE COME BACK
PLEASE COME BACK........... PALE HAAAAARSE

obvious drug reference is obvious..maybe some reference to a deseased friend of him who OD'd.

[slunken]

http://archive.org/details/zwan2003-02-08.flac16

friends as lovers sounds like american gothic music

[Morlock]

Originally Posted by sjpaterra

am i the only one that noticed how similar pale horse and mina loy are?

The riff is also similar to the chorus in Owata.

[Shalalala]

Pale horse is about me.
I'm in a mental hospital, in part cause of my Sagittarius (half woman, half horse) girlfriend.
She used to come visit, she's fair skined, and she left cause I lied, and I was livin the runaway life thing. I mailed her 14 letters wanting her back.
She and I are not compatable. I'm a Pisces.
Now I have a Libra and a healthy stable relationship. I like the song were Billy sings "Breath! Love is air."

[Euronomus]

Please come back


Pale Horse

[Shallowed]

Originally Posted by slunken

This is the first time I've heard this song, holy fuck it's cool. Why was there never a big deal made about this song? I mean I suppose it's just guitar+vocal so some could consider it to be a throwaway especially since it's a bonus track or something. But musically it's the most interesting thing I've heard from Corgan for a long time.

[brendo_91]

I'M JUST ONE WISH AWAY, I'M JUST ONE WISH AWAY FROM YOU KID.... So many lives!