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Old 03-24-2014, 04:06 PM   #31
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WERE you? Or were YOU being trolled?
or were you the one trolling being trolled while you were trolling

 
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Old 03-24-2014, 04:12 PM   #32
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Old 03-24-2014, 04:18 PM   #33
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if I were a real progressive I would be more into abridging freedom and individuality for the greater benefit of society

 
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Old 03-24-2014, 04:24 PM   #34
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Repeal the second amendment. Ban handguns.

 
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Old 03-24-2014, 04:26 PM   #35
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if I were a real progressive I would be more into abridging freedom and individuality for the greater benefit of society
"real communist" i think you'll find

 
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Old 03-24-2014, 04:26 PM   #36
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you're a perfect liberal; "freedom" by any means*

*unless it's about guns or economics or something

so i guess perfect obamatarded quasi-liberal

 
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Old 03-24-2014, 04:36 PM   #37
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What issue are you taking with any of my views, specifically

Do we even disagree about anything or are you just picking a fight for the fun of it


Or was that for rbg

 
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Old 03-24-2014, 05:04 PM   #38
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that was for RBG

 
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Old 03-24-2014, 05:12 PM   #39
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you're a perfect liberal; "freedom" by any means*

*unless it's about guns or economics or something

so i guess perfect obamatarded quasi-liberal
"freedom by any means" is more descriptive of classical liberalism, the spirit of which is probably most alive and well in the libertarian mind today. that's not me obviously

I was really just giving you shit because you've been an unrestrained antagonistic prat lately. although I do really think I am more socially liberal than you. you just always fall back on this idea that social rights don't matter because our economic trajectory is going to turn everyone into gutter dwelling subhuman thralls to the hunger games

 
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Old 03-24-2014, 05:18 PM   #40
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"real communist" i think you'll find
also if I were a real communist, I would point out that the dictatorship of the proletariat only lasts until the substructure of the bourgeoisie has been completely dismantled, at which point everyone left standing inherits the most complete sense of freedom known to humankind since the division of labor. there will be no further need for laws or a governing body separate from ourselves as one body of human citizens

 
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Old 03-24-2014, 06:39 PM   #41
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or maybe thats what you want us to think

 
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Old 03-24-2014, 08:03 PM   #42
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yah and at which point does that occur, before or after you dismantle the bourgeois "freedoms" which are, ultimately, the freedoms you only ever really enjoy if you are the bourgeois

of which i am a member, oh the irony

 
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Old 03-24-2014, 08:04 PM   #43
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and you're right economic and environmental concerns are going to turn us all into CHUDs


 
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Old 03-24-2014, 08:10 PM   #44
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i mean IF we survive and that's a HUGE if

 
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Old 03-24-2014, 08:18 PM   #45
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yah and at which point does that occur, before or after you dismantle the bourgeois "freedoms" which are, ultimately, the freedoms you only ever really enjoy if you are the bourgeois

of which i am a member, oh the irony
most of us would probably be considered petty bourgeoisie by Marx, and they ultimately are going to fight on the side of the proletariat according to the Manifesto. They are going to lend their skills, knowledge, and resources to the communist cause, which is necessary because the prols are completely destitute and can't stage a revolution without at least some skilled aid. In Marx's time the petty bourgeoisie was a relatively small group, but today we are many in developed countries and we just call ourselves "the middle class."

 
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Old 03-24-2014, 10:11 PM   #46
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scot would love an upper middle class tax cut too, he'd turn GOP faster than you could blink if they gave up all this religious shit


What do tax cuts have to do with Government spending more than it takes in? I mean, besides sustaining a bureaucracy and its inevitable implosion from said overspending...

 
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Old 03-24-2014, 10:20 PM   #47
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What do tax cuts have to do with Government spending more than it takes in? I mean, besides sustaining a bureaucracy and its inevitable implosion from said overspending...
nothing, just like how this response has nothing to do with what trots said

 
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Old 03-24-2014, 10:21 PM   #48
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except that actually starve the beast obviously has quite a lot to do with spending more than you take in... smdh

 
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Old 03-25-2014, 03:10 AM   #49
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most of us would probably be considered petty bourgeoisie by Marx, and they ultimately are going to fight on the side of the proletariat according to the Manifesto. They are going to lend their skills, knowledge, and resources to the communist cause, which is necessary because the prols are completely destitute and can't stage a revolution without at least some skilled aid. In Marx's time the petty bourgeoisie was a relatively small group, but today we are many in developed countries and we just call ourselves "the middle class."
then it gets hijacked by People Who Know Best so i think the patronizing attitude is part of the bourgeois affectation to the neo aristocracy.

like i said marx is not a bible

 
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Old 03-25-2014, 08:48 AM   #50
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LOL

 
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Old 03-25-2014, 11:40 AM   #51
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he's being ironic because he thinks i view myself as a progressive and also i think furries are pathetic goobers

 
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Old 03-25-2014, 12:40 PM   #52
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he does try very very hard, though

 
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Old 03-25-2014, 04:54 PM   #53
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scotty you are actually a retarded person, you can stop gloating because you got to be on team trotskilicious one time you ingratiating dweeb. you're an idiot and your conduct here in the past week has really made me understand why others hate you so much and I regret ever defending you when people attack you for no reason

 
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Old 03-25-2014, 05:21 PM   #54
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scotty you are actually a retarded person, you can stop gloating because you got to be on team trotskilicious one time you ingratiating dweeb. you're an idiot and your conduct here in the past week has really made me understand why others hate you so much and I regret ever defending you when people attack you for no reason
thank you

 
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scottys never been attacked for no reason

 
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Old 03-25-2014, 09:32 PM   #56
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yeah you guys just missed the reasons why, nobody gets attacked "for no reason" not even I, the immortal trotskilicious with my large team

it's like when noobies show up and go "why are you guys mean to monte? he gives us news and also you must be jealous of him being close to bill."

 
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Old 03-26-2014, 12:23 AM   #57
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only a matter of time i mean as hipster kids get better jobs they just turn into republicans

they are all white after all
pretty sure the democratic party serves their interests fine?

 
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Old 03-26-2014, 12:42 AM   #58
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i could actually see this generation of hipsters growing into republicans. not saying it will happen but i can see how it could since they thrive on irony and they came of age in the obama era

 
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Old 03-26-2014, 12:55 AM   #59
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as pathetic as that ad is it's kind of a clever hook. somebody that's "just like me" throwing out bullet points like "getting rid of regulations so my friends can get jobs" in some really smarmy, annoyed way . i can see alot of people falling for that sort of thing

 
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Old 03-26-2014, 12:08 PM   #60
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i could actually see this generation of hipsters growing into republicans. not saying it will happen but i can see how it could since they thrive on irony and they came of age in the obama era
that's exactly what happened with Baby Boomers, the generation that supposedly was against war, for civil rights and wanted to do good things like save the environment.

 
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