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03-10-2015, 02:49 PM | #31 |
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"Oh that was SPLENDID! That was great! Wow. You guys rock...James, you learn some new jazz chords in there?" |
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03-10-2015, 04:51 PM | #32 |
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Does Billy go into the audience during that clip? I've never seen him do that...
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03-10-2015, 05:10 PM | #33 |
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the thing is when someone fucks up live you just keep going until they figure it out which usually they will. Stopping is unprofessional.
I mean even the most seasoned of seasoned bands will probably at some point during a show mess one or two things up. Most of the time nobody will notice (or care much anyway) unless you end up holding the wrong note for like several seconds.....OR making everybody stop to be like omg what is this? And then that last clip just above. Wow. He deserves to have no band and to not be selling and to not be celebrated to the breath of his accomplishments....in this culture. Fucking asshole. When you look at shit like this you realize that the fact that James hasnt talked to him again in like 15 years might actually make him the better human being in the whole band. |
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03-10-2015, 08:01 PM | #34 | |
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sorry bout that |
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03-10-2015, 09:50 PM | #35 |
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03-10-2015, 10:39 PM | #36 | |
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03-11-2015, 12:35 AM | #37 |
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This performance of Tristessa. Billy rings out a D chord like the beginning of 'Bury Me' and then Jimmy gets confused and starts the 'Bury Me' beat while the rest of the band starts playing Tristessa. He catches it quick though.
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03-11-2015, 01:40 AM | #38 |
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Stopping in the middle of a song is not only unprofessional, t's completely counter-intuitive and damages the way people think about you that would've otherwise never noticed D'arcy's bum notes, and they wouldn't have had first hand personal experience of Billy's dictator dickishness. Obviously these issues are deep-rooted, because billco has always been a smart businessman in other areas, but every now and then he just lets his complete and utter contempt for his bandmates spew out. pretty vicious. how un-self aware do you have to be to not see that insulting your bandmates like a schoolyard bully in front of thousands of your fans is one of the dumbest things you can do as a musician/entertainer/public person.
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03-11-2015, 08:48 AM | #39 |
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what i love so much about this is that jimmy made a mistake, billy tried to make it pass by following him though a bit late, and then there was a slight pause, and they punch back together in totally perfect time.
it's in completey free time! that's exactly what an incredible connection between two musicians is about. |
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03-11-2015, 10:14 AM | #40 |
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03-11-2015, 10:23 AM | #41 |
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Last edited by Copperpot5 : 03-15-2015 at 02:13 AM. |
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03-15-2015, 02:14 AM | #42 |
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47sec Last edited by Copperpot5 : 03-15-2015 at 02:25 AM. |
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03-15-2015, 02:29 AM | #43 |
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haha shit happens I guess at least he laughs about it |
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03-15-2015, 03:19 AM | #44 |
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is it only hilarious to me to see the "pumpkins" play with a tall bearded jesus dude for a bass player?
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03-15-2015, 03:21 AM | #45 |
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03-15-2015, 03:31 AM | #46 |
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yeah i find it appalling too
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03-15-2015, 03:57 AM | #47 |
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03-15-2015, 10:13 AM | #48 |
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03-15-2015, 11:21 AM | #49 |
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03-15-2015, 11:25 AM | #50 |
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What a fucking awful show. Are the "Pumpkins" going to fall so low they're going to have to play the casino circuit like Boyz II Men or Styx ?
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03-15-2015, 11:44 AM | #51 |
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03-15-2015, 12:23 PM | #52 |
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Billy doesn't even give a shit anymore...look at his face 0:55
The guitar and vocals remind of that awful Umphrey Mgee's cover...but with worse drums It's just so far removed from the SD version in so many ways, what's the point anymore? I love how every iteration of the band gets worse and worse so you miss the previous version I like how so many people in the crowd have a camera on a stick They're probably all getting in each other's way |
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03-15-2015, 12:30 PM | #53 | |
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going by a messy show on youtube you judge the quality of an entire line-up. granted, this lolla show didn't sound that great, but they did sound great between the first show in Chicago last fall and the December gigs. whatever went wrong here isn't enough to say "yea this line up is so much worse than Mikey bambam and Nicole." |
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03-15-2015, 12:56 PM | #54 |
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Here's the full show >>>
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03-15-2015, 04:16 PM | #55 |
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03-15-2015, 06:29 PM | #56 | |
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03-15-2015, 10:35 PM | #57 |
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Brad Wilk just doesn't have the right feel to play a song like that. He's more of a straight ahead hard rock drummer, doesn't have that jazzy swing that JC is so good at.
The guitar tone sounds pretty bad on that performance. Sounds too clean like they're using a tubescreamer into a clean amp. Doesn't have the saturation a song like that needs. You can tell Jeff is phoning it in big time. |
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03-15-2015, 10:50 PM | #58 |
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The guitar sounds so shallow and sloppy
I think the whole thing is mixed really badly but still (Oh and I like how much they artificially pump up the crowd noise when Billy starts his solo @ 3:42) Whenever they play BWBW it's really noticeable too during the chorus. There's no warmth to anything. ________________________ The other day I was watching this and for the first time it really made me realize how important D'arcy was to the band. That bass tone is so Pumpkins-y...it's legato and smooth and warm and groovy I mean that is just a cover band playing at Lolla 2015 for all intents and purposes |
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03-16-2015, 07:39 AM | #59 |
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holy shit discovering Brad Wilk is in SP is news to me
i can't be bothered to give a shit about this band anymore just goes to show you what a black hole sp has become. Wilk is such a great fucking drummer. so powerful. he sounds weak and lame with sp. guess you can't add muscle to a piece of shit |
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03-16-2015, 07:46 AM | #60 |
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