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03-21-2017, 10:04 PM | #6811 | |
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I think what you mean to say is "I'm just right and you are wrong and I can't explain why, I just KNOW it." not an interesting argument at this point, but it was good sparring while it teh lasted |
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03-21-2017, 10:07 PM | #6812 | |
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i'm "too smart" to reject the status quo thinking of "capitalism is better than what came before" its so fucking impossible for people reject subjective qualifiers for historical change that they're ready to call you stupid for it. story of my life. think out side the box, be told you're stupid. you got it, you keep readin that third way crap and telling me about how wonderful capitalist society is compared to feudalism i'm sure it means something to you for some reason. |
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03-21-2017, 10:10 PM | #6813 |
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03-21-2017, 10:12 PM | #6814 | |
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i'm just here defending my philosophical point which i think is logical and respectable but you're telling me I'm "too smart" to think it and reprise is saying shitty things to me about how i didn't even "prove" my point which is missing the point entirely. i'm not arguing history was worse or better i'm telling you not to use that kind of thinking when considering history, how do i fucking "prove" that with "statistics"? |
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03-21-2017, 10:17 PM | #6815 |
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you know its honestly kind of like when homer says that america has the greatest health care system in the world, and marge is incredulous and he says "WELL YOU BETTER THANK YOUR LUCKY STARS YOU DON'T LIVE IN PARAGUAY" thats how i feel about this argument, and i'm marge.
further literally not a one of you has even bothered to address the issues about the liberal capitalist impact on the planet or the western nuclear hegemony creating and forcing peace under white supremacy. thats because it breaks this dumb analysis. |
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03-21-2017, 10:18 PM | #6816 |
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I never had a professor who treated fukuyama as anything but a joke, not sure how long ago you were in school
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03-21-2017, 10:19 PM | #6817 |
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nvmd it's obviously not worth it. you move goal posts fasrter than I can type English
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03-21-2017, 10:19 PM | #6818 |
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well i don't know any history professor that treated subjective comparative history as anything but a joke also
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03-21-2017, 10:19 PM | #6819 |
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03-21-2017, 10:21 PM | #6820 | |
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03-21-2017, 10:22 PM | #6821 |
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like you could have just been like "i don't agree with trotsky but i can see why he thinks that way" no you have to remind me that i'm stupid & undeducated, compared to you, mr. liberal fantastic man
liberalism is not about equality its about hierarchy based on "merit" as defined by the liberals, and it always has been. thats why they get completely contemptuous to anyone challenging their view of the world, even if it comes from the far left |
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03-21-2017, 10:22 PM | #6822 | |
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that is not to say I don't like you because generally I do, but you are certainly a huge troll and you don't argue in a logical way you just troll your opponents until they get tired. you change your argument back and forth from post to post, always getting at that there is some higher truth we just aren't getting but that you can't also quite articulate |
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03-21-2017, 10:23 PM | #6823 | |
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Yet you provide no evidence, good job |
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03-21-2017, 10:25 PM | #6824 |
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you are very sensitive. I knew when you came back it was only a matter of time before you started harassing people who like you as well as your enemies and we would eventually argue, because you can dish it out but you can't take it. when I respond to you the same way you talk to me, suddenly I am in the wrong for disrespecting your intelligence. as far as I was concerned it was a good argument even though you kept changing your argument until you had to resort to the tired college liberals are so bad durr durr epithets and scapegoats but whatever have a good night
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03-21-2017, 10:25 PM | #6825 |
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03-21-2017, 10:26 PM | #6826 |
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03-21-2017, 10:27 PM | #6827 |
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if you read back you will see that you are the one who set that tone in this argument. like always, you can dish it out but you can't take it. it's nothing personal, but if you are going to go after people like you are some genius who has emerged from socrates' cave, you have no ethos to then get pissed when people speak the same way to you
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03-21-2017, 10:28 PM | #6828 |
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are you doing tone police now
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03-21-2017, 10:28 PM | #6829 |
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its really funny how quickly liberals throw the car into reverse when it comes to fighting with marxists
further anything you're saying is about your insecurity not my tone, i never once disrespected your intelligence in the direct way you did mine i did so to reprise because i'm mad now and i'm sick of this shit |
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03-21-2017, 10:31 PM | #6830 |
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always an excuse
you were disrespectful to everyone else here before anyone else get even the slightest bit testy. maybe you don't realize it because in your mind your "rightness" justifies it whereas we're just stupid liberals and owe you respect regardless |
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03-21-2017, 10:33 PM | #6831 |
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yeah you fucking pissed me off but its not your responsibility, that's liberalism for you
i was flippant but i didn't insult anyone directly, unless you think being called a liberal is insulting |
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03-21-2017, 10:35 PM | #6832 | |
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so i took a stroll back to the start, and it starts off with me making fun of liberalism in a general way and then
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get bent you fucking liberal shitclown. saying "i'm sorry but i think you're a very stupid, emotional idiot" is not an apology or an excuse to say it |
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03-21-2017, 10:35 PM | #6833 |
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when used as an epithet over and over to discredit individuals based on group identity it is obviously insulting
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03-21-2017, 10:36 PM | #6834 |
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The evidence may be flawed but when examining it critically there seems to be some merit, when I went into it skeptical and now am less so. The whole point though is not to glorify capitalism or liberalism, it is to take a look at the trends in violence and look at the human reasons for them, e.g. empathy, social and antisocial attitudes, etc. 300 years ago in Europe people were being tortured for fun and entertainment in town squares and we were burning 'witches' at the stake and shit. Something changed where this is now seen as abhorrent. We don't even execute most murderers anymore (obviously this is a good thing). I don't know why you are so hostile to the idea that the world is less violent, it doesn't mean it's necessarily better just that fewer people are dying from violence AS FAR AS WE CAN TELL, I'd love to see something that contradicts that
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03-21-2017, 10:36 PM | #6835 |
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i mean I wasn't aware that anyone over the age of 21 seriously told others they are a marxist but yeah we are the ones who have been poisoned by liberal arts college liberal academica
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03-21-2017, 10:36 PM | #6836 |
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i see your point that you think that capitalism & liberalism has improved society from previous eras
i think that using subjective comparative history is self serving at best you do not see my point that it is subjective and you're overlooking a lot of bad stuff in the persuit of proving a point that is moot and yet none of you will relent. |
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03-21-2017, 10:38 PM | #6837 |
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its about being a liberal, someone who is interested in persuing western liberal captialism, which you are, otherwise you would have said "its moot anyway!" and moved on
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03-21-2017, 10:38 PM | #6838 |
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Like trots I respect your position and you know a hell of a lot more about history than I do but when you refuse to explain yourself and just make all caps short shitposts you aren't adding to any conversation I'm sorry
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03-21-2017, 10:38 PM | #6839 |
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03-21-2017, 10:39 PM | #6840 |
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how did i not explain myself i said over and over and over again and yet you guys just gloss over all of it and say i'm stupid and didn't "prove" my point
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