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12-30-2013, 06:14 PM | #1 |
Amish Hoe Fighter
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How to tell the difference between MCIS original and reissue
I'm trying to re-organize my mp3s. I'd like to keep separate copies of the original mastering and the reissue, but my folders weren't well labeled. i'm listening to what I thought was the original but I'm having trouble telling the difference (untroo fan?). Anyone recall a quick noticeable difference?
Of course, this might lead one to ask, if I can't even tell the difference between the two, why bother keep separate copies? |
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12-30-2013, 06:35 PM | #2 |
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first pressing has a great big dick on the cover
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12-30-2013, 06:37 PM | #3 |
Amish Hoe Fighter
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Hmm, can't find any dicks in my mp3s.
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12-30-2013, 06:46 PM | #4 |
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well i think you just discovered why reissues are for suckers
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12-30-2013, 08:05 PM | #5 | |
Virgo
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The easiest thing that comes to mind would be to check your file info. When it was added or created or even how many times it's been played. So if you can't tell the difference that means you haven't been listening to either of them. Delete one or both and try again. |
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12-30-2013, 08:28 PM | #6 |
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Are there any legitimately noticeable differences in the reissue versions, though?
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12-30-2013, 08:31 PM | #7 |
Virgo
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Well one of them I can't remember which has a ton of bonus CD's that go with it
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12-30-2013, 08:32 PM | #8 |
Virgo
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It's like a bunch of bonus tracks and stuff.
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12-31-2013, 11:53 AM | #9 |
Pledge
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Reissue replaces the Doom explosion with the sound of a cash register.
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12-31-2013, 12:09 PM | #10 |
Pledge
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The sounds at the beginning of In the Arms of Sleep are noticeably louder in the reissue.
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12-31-2013, 03:15 PM | #11 |
Amish Hoe Fighter
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12-31-2013, 04:03 PM | #12 |
Just Hook it to My Veins!
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shouldn't the entirety of the reissue be noticeably louder and more punchy? I don't have the MCIS one, but listening to songs from Gish and SD (original and reissue back to back) it is immediately clear which one is which
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12-31-2013, 04:50 PM | #13 |
Virgo
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It's all so slipshod and willy nilly I'm surprised they got the songs in the right order.
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12-31-2013, 04:53 PM | #14 |
Virgo
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The fact that a song like Blank was given a previously non-existent reverb boost to the vocal without any written indication of doing so makes me suspicious of all the other songs.
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12-31-2013, 04:54 PM | #15 |
Virgo
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Wasn't there a song on the PI reissue that was an entirely different take?
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12-31-2013, 04:55 PM | #16 |
Virgo
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I mean, it says FULLY REMASTERED right on it
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12-31-2013, 04:59 PM | #17 |
Virgo
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Has anybody seen one of those "making of the album" documentaries on netflix? those guys are mixing and isolating channels like crazy
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12-31-2013, 06:42 PM | #18 |
Amish Hoe Fighter
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Plume has a different vocal take, but I think the rest of the track is the same.
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12-31-2013, 07:33 PM | #19 |
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When the Gish and SD reissues were in the works, Billy mentioned how he couldn't remember which mixes were the final ones that were used, so he had to listen to every mix until he could narrow it down.
If that is true, there's likely a lot more differences in the mixes than we've spotted. |
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12-31-2013, 07:33 PM | #20 |
Virgo
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Yea that's insane.
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12-31-2013, 07:47 PM | #21 |
Socialphobic
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That's if you assume they printed lots of different mixes that were similar.
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12-31-2013, 08:47 PM | #22 |
Virgo
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It's a guessing game.
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01-01-2014, 01:36 AM | #23 |
dumb
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Just release the multitracks and we can have as many mixes as we want.
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01-02-2014, 01:48 PM | #24 |
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i remember thinking while listening to it that it had a lot more top end/treble than the original
who fucking cares though |
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01-02-2014, 02:10 PM | #25 |
Socialphobic
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are both original and mastered files mixed into the same folder? do you need to tell apart EACH track or are they still grouped into different folders?
has this problem been resolved? |
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01-02-2014, 02:46 PM | #26 | |
Mothmonsterman
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Already OP, post some screenshots of your folder layout. Have you used any metadata tools to compare? MP3tag is fantastic if you're on Windows. |
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01-02-2014, 10:36 PM | #27 |
Amish Hoe Fighter
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Problem solved. I just downloaded the album tracks from torrents that were more than a couple years old.
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01-03-2014, 09:54 PM | #28 |
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For the reissue in the Ruby track. You can still here the ebow guitars into to Mellon Collie Reprise ~7:00 to 7:10. In the original they fade out
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01-03-2014, 11:28 PM | #29 |
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01-04-2014, 01:55 AM | #30 |
Socialphobic
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it's more apparent in the remaster, but the ebow is still present in the original, just buried a bit more. the feedback squeals in the reprise part are also brought out more in the remaster. This is the kind of thing you'd expect would happen with a remastering. it's not a new mix.
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