i smoked heroin for the first time today

[noyen]

Originally Posted by Elphenor

Yeah smack is whack, but idk, Ive always wanted to drop acid.

Speed was Mark E. Smith's drug of choice. I'd like to try that too.
Im probably being stupid, idk anything about heavy drugs really, but I read somewhere that the number reason people tend to do drugs is simple boredom and too much leisure time.

And I was totally sober up until I was 19 and I about killed myself, so total sobriety for sure isn't healthy.

darwinism works. sometimes.

[Trotskilicious]

yeah you should do a whole lot of smack, elph it's the only way to be real post punk or whatever you want to be

[Elphenor]

Lol.

I was reading Richard Hell's biography and he says that Tom and him tried smack because Lou Reed did smack.
Then they puked everywhere and were sick for days.

But I mean, they're reason for doing smack is the same reason I want to do Speed.
You want to try and see what is going on in the brains of the artists you really admire.

[Elphenor]

But, fuck, Im just this suburban kid who sucks at living suburban life but who isn't tough enough to do aanything else.

[null123]

I'm so embarrassed even being in the presence of Elphenor's posts

[toase]

I've never tried heroin, It's on my to do list

[Elphenor]

Trots sorta kinda agreed with me and then pretty much suggested I kill myself one post later.
Pretty awesome

[null123]

That happens

[noyen]

good luck if you try it. possibly the dumbest fucking thing to dabble in but who listens to people with perspective on that shit. the youth of today make me fucking sick. there is really nothing redeeming about speed or heroin unless you are smart enough to stop instantly and realize how fucking dumb you were. I don't really believe this elph person is "real". too much. go away so we aren't implicated in your stupid decisions.

[Bread Regal]

Originally Posted by Elphenor

i told u i was hardcore

[toase]

I'm not saying I'm smart

[Bread Regal]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

for once i agree. i think i said in another thread, you're one of two things if you don't enjoy at least a drink on occasion:

1) recovering alcoholic or 2) WEIRD

3) on a medication that significantly lowers your seizure tolerance when you drink

[Elphenor]

Originally Posted by noyen

good luck if you try it. possibly the dumbest fucking thing to dabble in but who listens to people with perspective on that shit. the youth of today make me fucking sick. there is really nothing redeeming about speed or heroin unless you are smart enough to stop instantly and realize how fucking dumb you were. I don't really believe this elph person is "real". too much. go away so we aren't implicated in your stupid decisions.

Hey, don't freak out. If I didn't want perspective I wouldn't say anything.

[Order 66]

i tried dilaudad once. that's sort of like heroin

saw tracers all day maaaan

[Elphenor]

I'm genuinely interested in Noyen's drug experiences now.

[Order 66]

he posts as xXxGoku420xXx on erowid

[noyen]

Originally Posted by Elphenor

Hey, don't freak out. If I didn't want perspective I wouldn't say anything.

That's me being serious, not freaking out. I am thankful for my drug experiences because now I know what's gonna kill me and how I want to die. had some fantastic feelings on drugs. all amounting to maybe a few days or weeks of drug happiness. but then there's the years and decades of hell that go along with it. Try it out. Live the dream. If you are real and this naive then a different message board might be better for ya. We will only encourage your bumbling fart thoughts the way the exploding boy feeds off our negativity. Only happy to oblige and welcome you into the cool kids club.

[noyen]

Originally Posted by Elphenor

I'm genuinely interested in Noyen's drug experiences now.

I'm not interested in sharing them. lou reed wrote a book. google drug experiences. also check out my posts on erowid as my home pointed out above.

[Elphenor]

"I know what's going to kill me and how I want to die"

That is some cryptic shit.

[toase]

noyen, you must be fun at parties

[Elphenor]

But, seriously, I've seen drug addiction first hand and shit is terrfying even from a spectators position.

[Elphenor]

But then I've known people who did heavy drugs and now function perfectly fine as normal, even boring, people.

[noyen]

Originally Posted by toase

noyen, you must be fun at parties

hilarious.

[noyen]

Originally Posted by Elphenor

"I know what's going to kill me and how I want to die"

That is some cryptic shit.

not really. "Heroin is great, drug addiction or relapse will kill me and I'm fine as shit with that."

[Elphenor]

So when you're like about to die, you're gonna be like "Time to shoot up" or what?


In terms of severity, is speed up in the same league as heroin or is like heroin just the king?

[D.]

Originally Posted by toase

noyen, you must be fun at parties

he probably is. i'd probably sit on the couch and listen to him for hours.

[Elphenor]

I like adored this girl who was an ex heroin addict. But I didn't find out until it was too late.
It confuses me as to whether she was alreasy fucked and that's why she did heroin or if the heroin is what shot her brain dead.

[noyen]

Originally Posted by Elphenor

So when you're like about to die, you're gonna be like "Time to shoot up" or what?


In terms of severity, is speed up in the same league as heroin or is like heroin just the king?

if I were to commit suicide I'd much rather take a huge blast of heroin than put a gun in my mouth. its a wonderful feeling. it's how my brother died, but unintentionally. I look forward to my fathers ultimate demise from drug addiction. Real fun to look forward to. Yeah I totally planned out my demise in such a pedestrian manner. "So, self I'm about to die so I'll kill myself". doesn't compute.

try both. it's up to you how severe it is. your fate in your dna and predisposition. taco bells a yes or I to till at a cob hero to nacho might be king. I am in no position to say what is more severe for anyone. meth is addicting. feels great. heroin is addicting. feels great. grape crush soda is addicting. feels great.

I say go for it. Have a listen to pulp's " common people". I think it was written for people like you.

[noyen]

Originally Posted by Elphenor

So when you're like about to die, you're gonna be like "Time to shoot up" or what?


In terms of severity, is speed up in the same league as heroin or is like heroin just the king?

if I were to commit suicide I'd much rather take a huge blast of heroin than put a gun in my mouth. its a wonderful feeling. it's how my brother died, but unintentionally. I look forward to my fathers ultimate demise from drug addiction. Real fun to look forward to. Yeah I totally planned out my demise in such a pedestrian manner. "So, self I'm about to die so I'll kill myself". doesn't compute.

try both. it's up to you how severe it is. your fate in your dna and predisposition. taco bells queasorittotila might be king. I am in no position to say what is more severe for anyone. meth is addicting. feels great. heroin is addicting. feels great. grape crush soda is addicting. feels great.

I say go for it. Have a listen to pulp's " common people". I think it was written for people like you.

[noyen]

Originally Posted by D.

he probably is. i'd probably sit on the couch and listen to him for hours.

I've heard I'm great at parties if I can xanax out enough to attend one. I would want to listen to you though. I hate talking about myself. I like talking about tacos and music and movies.