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06-16-2015, 08:37 PM | #181 |
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You guys need to outlaw campaign donations or at least force disclosure of you ever want to get back to functioning democracy.
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06-16-2015, 08:55 PM | #182 |
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06-16-2015, 09:38 PM | #183 |
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The lineup of republicans is fantastic
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06-16-2015, 09:45 PM | #184 |
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06-16-2015, 10:04 PM | #185 |
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So i'm discussing this with my lady... Sanders isn't going to get the nod because he won't win against a republican candidate, yeah? He seems cool but my understanding was that he's too far left to be viable and is just running to try and draw Hillary to the left on her platform to avoid splitting the vote up?
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06-16-2015, 10:33 PM | #186 |
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i could sit here and wax hypothetical about a gore presidency but that's largely beside the point. the world is generally a much worse place today because 15 years ago "it doesn't really matter anyway"
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06-16-2015, 10:36 PM | #187 | |
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Or I guess we could elect a liberal congress but that would take redrawing districts (and I dunno, abolishing the senate) which can't happen until we have liberals in control of state governments after a census. The situation is not ideal |
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06-16-2015, 10:37 PM | #188 |
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06-16-2015, 10:39 PM | #189 |
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06-16-2015, 10:44 PM | #190 |
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Poots shut the fuck up would you
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06-16-2015, 11:09 PM | #191 | |
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06-16-2015, 11:10 PM | #192 | |
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06-16-2015, 11:38 PM | #193 | |
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06-16-2015, 11:49 PM | #194 | |
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i will say that i think bernie is running to put these ideas into voters heads, he knows hillary is a system candidate who will play left if she needs to but not feel at all indebted to delivering on any of it. i don't think he's foolish enough to think that she's going to suddenly start talking about narrowing the wage gap and stuff |
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06-16-2015, 11:59 PM | #195 |
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06-17-2015, 12:40 AM | #196 | |
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Now that my cynicism has set in, yeah, Hillary's getting the nomination no matter what she says, which means that she can essentially skip the primary. She's playing to the general voters already. |
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06-17-2015, 06:26 AM | #197 |
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I don't know how you can say she's playing to general voters already when basically every policy position she has staked out so far mirrors Bernie's.
She's talking like more of a lefty than anyone expected. What makes you say she's playing to the general election audience already? |
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06-17-2015, 07:32 AM | #198 |
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"miniature abortion flags for everyone!"
the "everyone" shows she's playing the general voters already. i find that quite obvious. |
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06-17-2015, 10:39 PM | #199 |
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Nobody has any love for Rand Paul?
He's who I'm rooting for. |
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06-17-2015, 10:46 PM | #200 |
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hahahah
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06-17-2015, 11:36 PM | #201 |
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fuzzy is fake
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06-18-2015, 01:55 AM | #202 | |
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06-18-2015, 08:05 AM | #203 |
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06-18-2015, 08:13 AM | #204 |
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06-18-2015, 08:14 AM | #205 |
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Whoever is elected, even Sanders, likely won't be able to enact the lefty policies we want outside of maybe foreign policy (which obviously matters but still). There is still going to be a center right congress.
The problem isn't presidential candidates as much as it is the system. imo. |
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06-18-2015, 08:15 AM | #206 |
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By center right I guess I really mean far right if I'm actually thinking about it.
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06-18-2015, 09:47 AM | #207 |
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last poll i saw in Michigan showed Clinton destroying all GOP candidates. Rand Paul. though, was the closest at 4%.
He's the candidate that Republicans deserve |
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06-18-2015, 11:48 AM | #208 | |
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06-18-2015, 11:48 AM | #209 |
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06-19-2015, 10:55 AM | #210 |
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Now I may not be a big time city lawyer, I don't have lots of book learnin or a smart phone or a map of the earth or know how to use a radio, but I know there's got to be something in the Constitution that allows us to dissolve Congress and establish a left-wing monarch. And I for one am willing to be that monarch. I will rule you all fairly, with an iron fist, and won't back down to our republican oppressors.
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