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Old 03-25-2010, 09:58 PM   #1
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I just released this show to the hub. I had planned to release it a while back; here is a wall of text I wrote then:

Does anyone know the lineage of the circulating copy of this show? I have a different version of the same recording. But first, some history...

Jimmy Flemion (of the Frogs) wanted a tape of this show for himself, so he gave a 90m ANA tape to the soundman for recording. That's why there's only 90m of this show: the sound guy didn't have another tape, so he just stopped recording after 90m. Obviously this is a SBD recording, and you can tell if you listen closely - SP always use a gate on the vocal mics, so during dead time the audience noise will pop in and out as the gate triggers depending on volume level. It's also why you hear a very clean recording of the house music before the band starts playing.

The transfer currently in circulation claims to be ANA-2. Its stereo separation is lousy; that is to say, there is essentially none. It also claims the recording is AUD, which makes me think that the person didn't know the story behind the recording, which makes the gen info very suspect.

I have an ANA-3 tape with better stereo separation. This came from Josh Provost a long time ago - Josh had (has?) an ANA-2. I'm not sure who had the ANA-1 - perhaps I never knew - but obviously the ANA-M was Jimmy Frog's.

The stereo separation on my copy is by no means perfect. The left channel levels are unbalanced throughout the tape. I boosted them 2db to get them to match up better in most places, but they still aren't great. I also only have 1:35 of I Am One, whereas the other tape has 2:43. Still, this is a different enough source of a relatively interesting/important show that I thought it was worth sharing.

I would love to hear any more info that anyone has about this show and/or recording.

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Old 03-27-2010, 10:25 AM   #2
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Thanks for the info strtj. Are you going to put this up on the archive as well?

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Old 03-27-2010, 12:57 PM   #3
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I've already put it up on the archive. Hope thats ok strtj and thanks again

Internet Archive: Free Download: Smashing Pumpkins Live at Bogart's on 1993-12-11

1993.12.11 - Bogart's, Cincinnati, OH

Taper: Jimmy Flemion
Generation: ANA-3
Source: SBD
Location: -
flaws: channels unbalanced; tape flip during Snail; I Am One cut
Conversion: Sony TC-WE625S > SGI Octane2 > Cool Edit Pro 2.1 > CDWave > flac
Resampling: none; show A/D converted at 44.1k
Editor: Henry Bent
Editing: none
SHN: Master WAV > flac 1.2.1 (level 8)


01 - Soma 8:39
02 - Rocket 4:31
03 - Geek U.S.A. 6:31
04 - Disarm 3:09
05 - Today 3:32
06 - Even Flow [PJ] + Spiteface (teases) 1:19
07 - Siva 5:34
08 - Bury Me 4:51
09 - Rhinoceros 4:33
10 - Snail (cut) 5:13
11 - Tristessa (abandoned) + JBG (tease) 1:06
12 - Window Paine (blues) 5:54
13 - Drown > 4:56
14 - Hummer 6:29
15 - Cherub Rock 4:26
16 - Quiet 4:09
17 - Pissant 3:17
18 - Starla 8:08
19 - Spaceboy 4:05
20 - I Am One (cut) 1:35

Jimmy Flemion asked the SBD to make him a tape, he gave them
one 90m tape, and they put the first 90m on it.

Left channel +2db to even things out a little

I have less of I Am One than the other source

Any questions, comments -

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Old 03-27-2010, 01:34 PM   #4
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'Tis the season for sharing.

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