if all you had was 1001-1014...

MyOneAndOnly · 03:39 PM

micropenis

MyOneAndOnly · 07-01-2014, 12:55 PM

If all there was of billy's music was what we have between 2001 and 2014, would you have ever started listening?

Would you even care?

pavementtune · 07-01-2014, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottytheoneand

If all there was of billy's music was what we have between 2001 and 2014, would you have ever started listening?

probably

http://www.rigmarole.de/gallery/zwan...cally_back.jpg

juliana · 07-01-2014, 01:51 PM

I like his solo album, american gothic, oceania.

But without adore, don't know if I would care.

Ram27 · 07-01-2014, 04:06 PM

Zwan was pretty kickass, so I'd probably get into it. I don't know how, though. It wouldn't be as popular as golden era SP.

I'd be really pissed the band ended so quickly.

We might hate SP7 less now if there wasn't a SD/MCIS to compare to. That'd probably be a good thing.

themadcaplaughs · 07-01-2014, 04:19 PM

I'd dig some of the Zwan songs and "Tarantula" but I would never have gotten as obsessed. One of the selling point of Smashing Pumpkins to me was that the music was consistently excellent (at best) to good (at worst).

The only song from the first run of Smashing Pumpkins I don't like is "In My Body."

Shallowed · 07-01-2014, 05:50 PM

If all I knew of SP was 2001-present then SP could be Switchfoot for all I care.

Shallowed · 07-01-2014, 05:52 PM

And even more of their best songs that they play live wouldn't go on their albums.

Spira|_ · 07-03-2014, 08:50 PM

I would not care at all. Zwan alone would not be enough to move me in.
I would not even read any forum related to the band even.

reprise85 · 07-03-2014, 09:23 PM

I might be a fan for Zwan/solo... maybe... but not enough to post on a message board or listen more than I listen to most bands that are good but not great.

Most likely I never would have heard of any of it and not missed it.

Trotskilicious · 07-03-2014, 09:30 PM

1014 you say?

null123 · 07-03-2014, 09:48 PM

I like his solo album and there's really nothing else I know that sounds like it. I like that Zwan song Riverview. I like a couple Zeitgeist songs.

Spira|_ · 07-03-2014, 10:20 PM

If SP were Zeitgeist I would change the radio station when they poped up for sure.

pavementtune · 07-03-2014, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charmbag

I like that Zwan song Riverview.

That beginning... I'd love to get an instrumental version of it.

Ram27 · 07-03-2014, 11:39 PM

Friends as Lovers
Cast a Stone
Rivers We Can't Cross

top notch shit

reprise85 · 07-03-2014, 11:43 PM

Those songs are great. But of course there is the problem of them never being released.

Ram27 · 07-03-2014, 11:47 PM

can't release an album when the band takes drugs and has sex

duh

bye june · 07-04-2014, 12:56 AM

Sunkissed is my favorite reunion sp song. He could have sang it a little better though.

dodoz · 07-05-2014, 11:23 AM

I would have been into "The Future Embrace" because I like this type of sound, and maybe Zwan, but I'd probably listen to it as one of a zillion other bands. I paid extra attention to Zwan because I was glad that Billy and Jimmy were back so quickly, and with worthwhile material when I didn't expect much. There was a whole context.

houseofglass11 · 07-05-2014, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by themadcaplaughs

The only song from the first run of Smashing Pumpkins I don't like is "In My Body."

Opinions can differ so much from person to person. I happen to think that's one of the best songs on Machina II. Great atmosphere, reminds me of early Cure.

Order 66 · 07-05-2014, 03:07 PM

post-2001 stuff isn't bad, just really spotty.

TFE is one of my favorite albums... the last one where he didn't give a fuck (in a good way)

Order 66 · 07-05-2014, 03:39 PM

its a weird album that sounds nothing like siamese dream. that alone set it up for "failure"

Trotskilicious · 07-05-2014, 03:52 PM

i think critics were more lukewarm to it, i don't think it was panned nearly as hard as zeitgeist which pretty much everyone hates the fuck out of except fuzzyroses

slunken · 07-05-2014, 03:54 PM

I like it ok too. Lean and mean jc/bc stripped down.

Order 66 · 07-05-2014, 10:21 PM

its kinda sorta a throwback to the Adore era sound.. but more new wavey and shoegazy

and i think it's the last album before he started bringing his blood curdling aging vocals so upfront

Trotskilicious · 07-06-2014, 02:26 AM

remember the chorus of bollies on zeirgeist

wasn't that the worst

fuzzyroes · 07-06-2014, 02:48 AM

fuck, just terrible. Zeitgeist had some pretty decent song-writing and structures, it was just destroyed by Corgans vocals and the vocal production.

fuzzyroes · 07-06-2014, 03:03 AM

I actually thought that the B0lly chorus worked nicely during this track:

To me, this is just a song that sounds really great cranked up super loud, just one that you can vibe with, and it has a really nice build-up to it. A grossly underrated Z track IMO

fuzzyroes · 07-06-2014, 03:06 AM

I mean, the song goes on in a super mellow vibe, and then picks up with some blistering Corgan guitar with that trademarked tone and then ends off in some awesome J-Macis like melodic shredding.

Fantastic way to end the album

Trotskilicious · 07-06-2014, 03:34 AM

bolly chorus goes nicely as the music you hear in hell

07-01-2014, 12:53 PM	#1
MyOneAndOnly Shut the fuck up! Location: "Okay, white power feminist" - yo soy el mejor Posts: 23,890	if all you had was 1001-1014... micropenis Last edited by MyOneAndOnly : 07-05-2014 at 03:39 PM.

07-01-2014, 12:55 PM	#2
MyOneAndOnly Shut the fuck up! Location: "Okay, white power feminist" - yo soy el mejor Posts: 23,890	If all there was of billy's music was what we have between 2001 and 2014, would you have ever started listening? Would you even care?

07-01-2014, 01:51 PM	#4
juliana Apocalyptic Poster Location: Crestfallen News Dumpster Posts: 3,056	I like his solo album, american gothic, oceania. But without adore, don't know if I would care.

07-01-2014, 04:06 PM	#5
Ram27 dumb Location: $8.6 million embezzled funds Posts: 11,368	Zwan was pretty kickass, so I'd probably get into it. I don't know how, though. It wouldn't be as popular as golden era SP. I'd be really pissed the band ended so quickly. We might hate SP7 less now if there wasn't a SD/MCIS to compare to. That'd probably be a good thing.

07-01-2014, 04:19 PM	#6
themadcaplaughs Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 2,628	I'd dig some of the Zwan songs and "Tarantula" but I would never have gotten as obsessed. One of the selling point of Smashing Pumpkins to me was that the music was consistently excellent (at best) to good (at worst). The only song from the first run of Smashing Pumpkins I don't like is "In My Body."

07-01-2014, 05:50 PM	#7
Shallowed Braindead Posts: 18,608	If all I knew of SP was 2001-present then SP could be Switchfoot for all I care.

07-01-2014, 05:52 PM	#8
Shallowed Braindead Posts: 18,608	And even more of their best songs that they play live wouldn't go on their albums.

07-03-2014, 08:50 PM	#9
Spira\|_ Apocalyptic Poster Location: Muzzle. Posts: 1,210	I would not care at all. Zwan alone would not be enough to move me in. I would not even read any forum related to the band even.

07-03-2014, 09:23 PM	#10
reprise85 BOTTLEG ILLEGAL Location: I'm faced with so many changes that I just might change my face Posts: 32,800	I might be a fan for Zwan/solo... maybe... but not enough to post on a message board or listen more than I listen to most bands that are good but not great. Most likely I never would have heard of any of it and not missed it.

07-03-2014, 09:30 PM	#11
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,439	1014 you say?

07-03-2014, 09:48 PM	#12
null123 Minion of Satan Location: bye Posts: 7,266	I like his solo album and there's really nothing else I know that sounds like it. I like that Zwan song Riverview. I like a couple Zeitgeist songs.

07-03-2014, 10:20 PM	#13
Spira\|_ Apocalyptic Poster Location: Muzzle. Posts: 1,210	If SP were Zeitgeist I would change the radio station when they poped up for sure.

07-03-2014, 11:39 PM	#15
Ram27 dumb Location: $8.6 million embezzled funds Posts: 11,368	Friends as Lovers Cast a Stone Rivers We Can't Cross top notch shit

07-03-2014, 11:43 PM	#16
reprise85 BOTTLEG ILLEGAL Location: I'm faced with so many changes that I just might change my face Posts: 32,800	Those songs are great. But of course there is the problem of them never being released.

07-03-2014, 11:47 PM	#17
Ram27 dumb Location: $8.6 million embezzled funds Posts: 11,368	can't release an album when the band takes drugs and has sex duh

07-04-2014, 12:56 AM	#18
bye june Ownz Location: Sadlands Posts: 930	Sunkissed is my favorite reunion sp song. He could have sang it a little better though.

07-05-2014, 11:23 AM	#19
dodoz Demi-God Posts: 264	I would have been into "The Future Embrace" because I like this type of sound, and maybe Zwan, but I'd probably listen to it as one of a zillion other bands. I paid extra attention to Zwan because I was glad that Billy and Jimmy were back so quickly, and with worthwhile material when I didn't expect much. There was a whole context.

07-05-2014, 03:07 PM	#21
Order 66 Socialphobic Posts: 11,831	post-2001 stuff isn't bad, just really spotty. TFE is one of my favorite albums... the last one where he didn't give a fuck (in a good way)

07-05-2014, 03:39 PM	#22
Order 66 Socialphobic Posts: 11,831	its a weird album that sounds nothing like siamese dream. that alone set it up for "failure"

07-05-2014, 03:52 PM	#23
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,439	i think critics were more lukewarm to it, i don't think it was panned nearly as hard as zeitgeist which pretty much everyone hates the fuck out of except fuzzyroses

07-05-2014, 03:54 PM	#24
slunken Virgo Posts: 42,781	I like it ok too. Lean and mean jc/bc stripped down.

07-05-2014, 10:21 PM	#25
Order 66 Socialphobic Posts: 11,831	its kinda sorta a throwback to the Adore era sound.. but more new wavey and shoegazy and i think it's the last album before he started bringing his blood curdling aging vocals so upfront

07-06-2014, 02:26 AM	#26
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,439	remember the chorus of bollies on zeirgeist wasn't that the worst

07-06-2014, 02:48 AM	#27
fuzzyroes Banned Posts: 21,169	fuck, just terrible. Zeitgeist had some pretty decent song-writing and structures, it was just destroyed by Corgans vocals and the vocal production.

07-06-2014, 03:03 AM	#28
fuzzyroes Banned Posts: 21,169	I actually thought that the B0lly chorus worked nicely during this track: To me, this is just a song that sounds really great cranked up super loud, just one that you can vibe with, and it has a really nice build-up to it. A grossly underrated Z track IMO

07-06-2014, 03:06 AM	#29
fuzzyroes Banned Posts: 21,169	I mean, the song goes on in a super mellow vibe, and then picks up with some blistering Corgan guitar with that trademarked tone and then ends off in some awesome J-Macis like melodic shredding. Fantastic way to end the album

07-06-2014, 03:34 AM	#30
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,439	bolly chorus goes nicely as the music you hear in hell