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View Poll Results: Will you boycott the upcoming tour because of D'arcy?
Yes, I am staying home because of the D'arcy debacle/it's not a real reunion 29 27.10%
No, I still plan to attend the upcoming tour 53 49.53%
I was never planning on seeing the band on the upcoming tour 25 23.36%
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Old 02-15-2018, 02:09 PM   #31
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Why can't you go, gurrrrrl?
well considering i now have over 6 months notice until they hit the west coast i might be able to pull it off

 
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Old 02-15-2018, 02:12 PM   #32
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I'd only go if the tour went really badly and I could get tickets for really cheap - just to see Jimmy and James, basically

But with the prices I assume they're charging now, fuck no

 
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Old 02-15-2018, 02:17 PM   #33
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Hey guys, I'm back! How have you all been??

I'll be going , Darcy sounds fucking mental and if you old folk took your heads out of your backsides you'd realise Billy was being quite sensible in asking her to join not knowing how fucked up she is.

Her phone interview proved she's completely off the rails, nobody at that age with any sense of decorum would talk like that. I'm not surprised James doesn't speak to her or return her calls anymore.

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I agree.

 
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Old 02-15-2018, 02:22 PM   #34
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i don't think i'd go anyway. even before darcy. billy's info wars trump ass can go suck it.

 
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Old 02-15-2018, 02:25 PM   #35
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I agree.
Hey man, I knew you'd have my back


I'd expect Billy knew she would be like that and knew she'd go nuclear ad sack it off, which worked.

I'm not taking sides with either of them, I'm 36 now

 
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Old 02-15-2018, 02:25 PM   #36
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i don't think i'd go anyway. even before darcy. billy's info wars trump ass can go suck it.
This, plus the transphobia and racism.

 
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Old 02-15-2018, 02:26 PM   #37
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oh jesus if all the venues are charging close to a grand then never fucking mind, they can kiss my ass

 
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Old 02-15-2018, 02:31 PM   #38
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There should be an option for undecided. The treatment of D'arcy has for now killed all enthusiasm, but I still hope someone that is actually in the band matures enough to call her on the phone.
Vote based on what you are feeling now. I didn't give an undecided option because I wanted to know as directly as possible how many people this has actually alienated.

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Hmm all these posters with <500 posts are skewing the results...
Skewing them how? That they will still go? I think a lot of the old time posters have stated they will still go as well. I was honestly curious as to the feelings of everyone, not just the evil Netphorian base.

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The announcement of the OMGSHUEGAYZ three guitar attak!!! is really making me grit my teeth over this one. Hopefully the US arena tour will bomb and I won't have to worry about them coming to the UK. Fuck Jeff, this should be Billy vs James.
fuzzy? is that you?

 
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Old 02-15-2018, 02:32 PM   #39
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Old 02-15-2018, 02:32 PM   #40
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Does anyone really want to hear Jeff play over everything?

 
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This, plus the transphobia and racism.
He's racist? :/

 
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Old 02-15-2018, 02:36 PM   #42
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I'd expect Billy knew she would be like that and knew she'd go nuclear ad sack it off, which worked.

I'm not taking sides with either of them, I'm 36 now

I do think they should've talked way earlier, so they could work out an arrangement. This whole scenario was very abrupt.

 
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Old 02-15-2018, 02:40 PM   #44
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He's racist? :/
He equated Black Lives Matter with the KKK. He's racist.

 
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Old 02-15-2018, 02:45 PM   #45
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i would rather watch anderson cooper interview stephen malkmus

 
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Old 02-15-2018, 02:46 PM   #46
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I last saw Billy perform while he was heading Zwan and I see no reason to change that

I'd honestly rather see D'arcy do a one-woman spoken word show about all she's been through

It could be called HORSES AND HORSE: A LIFE

 
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Old 02-15-2018, 02:51 PM   #47
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I do think they should've talked way earlier, so they could work out an arrangement. This whole scenario was very abrupt.
Yeah definitely,

Literally anything is possible in this day and age, I'm not just talking about SP

If she needs the money she may even show up, nothing surprises me anymore!

 
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Old 02-15-2018, 03:01 PM   #48
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Old 02-15-2018, 03:17 PM   #49
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Yeah, fuck these venues, I’m out

 
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Old 02-15-2018, 03:18 PM   #50
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honest question...for those who hate billy so much, why do you spend your energy on an internet forum about him?

 
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Old 02-15-2018, 03:26 PM   #51
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Their nihilists. They revel in destruction.

 
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Old 02-15-2018, 03:27 PM   #52
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cause it's not about him

 
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Old 02-15-2018, 03:28 PM   #53
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honest question...for those who hate billy so much, why do you spend your energy on an internet forum about him?
He's the rockstar you love to hate!

I imagine somewhere between watching a car crash and hoping everything turns around.

As things stand, if they ever make a movie of the Grunge scene, Corgan is Salieri.

 
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Old 02-15-2018, 03:30 PM   #54
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Rawk star, the bigger question is why do you, as a sad machines super fan, spend time in a forum that hates him?

 
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Old 02-15-2018, 03:33 PM   #55
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hate is a strong word. I don't hate that guy.

also I didn't realize actually loving music he was part of in the 90ies equates to one single person cult that you need to hate or love but hey, the longer I look at facebook, the more I get it!

 
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Old 02-15-2018, 03:36 PM   #56
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I don't hate him but I hate a lot of things he does and the way he handles things.

 
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Old 02-15-2018, 03:40 PM   #57
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pretty much yea. it's a mix of pity and disgust for me. until I actually hear the songs I love. that somehow - thankfully - is not connected to #BellyWelliam in my head, not any more.

along the lines of: thanks for the music, it became mine a long time ago - and what you do now or say, fuck you and all.

the second I hear hello kitty I don't think of this person or of anything he has done or said since then. thankfully. I had hate-breaks where I didn't listen to any songs I used to love for 5 years, I was incapable of hearing his voice and NOT connecting this pitiful boy to the songs. I can now.
(far less, still, last time I listened to sp for longer than 2 tracks in one go was when the adore reissue came out.) surprisingly I can go to gigs and enjoy them just fine, as long as I don't have a straight view to the stage lol.

 
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Old 02-15-2018, 03:45 PM   #58
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honest question...for those who hate billy so much, why do you spend your energy on an internet forum about him?

up until very recently i was still following with some hope that he could create something enjoyable again.

but now im just fascinated how i could have been such a huge fan of something created by someone who's turned out to be a horrible disaster of a person. and watching someone's talent erode has a car crash quality.

i don't enjoy it, its just interesting. something to learn from personally, like how misguided my perceptions were of what SP was all along.

 
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Old 02-15-2018, 03:46 PM   #59
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I'm never supporting anything Billy does ever again.

The only I'll go to a show is if we can get a group of netphorians to punk Billy by wearing our own Billy-mocking shirts and standing in the front row defiantly

 
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pretty much yea. it's a mix of pity and disgust for me. until I actually hear the songs I love. that somehow - thankfully - is not connected to #BellyWelliam in my head, not any more.

along the lines of: thanks for the music, it became mine a long time ago - and what you do now or say, fuck you and all.

the second I hear hello kitty I don't think of this person or of anything he has done or said since then. thankfully. I had hate-breaks where I didn't listen to any songs I used to love for 5 years, I was incapable of hearing his voice and NOT connecting this pitiful boy to the songs. I can now.
(far less, still, last time I listened to sp for longer than 2 tracks in one go was when the adore reissue came out.) surprisingly I can go to gigs and enjoy them just fine, as long as I don't have a straight view to the stage lol.
Well said. I feel the same, except that I can't support him anymore by going to gigs and buying his records. It helps that the quality dropped so much.

 
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