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Old 01-24-2018, 01:07 PM   #271
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if you rate tgbk 10/10 then wtf are you supposed to rate sd?

 
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Old 01-24-2018, 01:11 PM   #272
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they equate SP as the greatest music of all time so all albums can’t possibly fail.

 
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Old 01-24-2018, 01:11 PM   #273
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Literal quote from one of em

 
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Old 01-24-2018, 01:20 PM   #274
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Wow, I thought even the most hardcore of Pumpkins apologists admitted Teargarden was - at absolute best - mediocre. Even people who loved Zeitgeist, Oceania, and Monuments to an Elegy seem to admit 2009-2011 were lean years. Billy himself admitted this a few times.

 
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Old 01-24-2018, 01:29 PM   #275
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they equate SP as the greatest music of all time so all albums can’t possibly fail.
even if that's their (incorrect and delusional) opinion, how can you rank anything in a meaningful way if everything is 10/10? does every single album have to be your favorite simultaneously and forever?

 
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Old 01-24-2018, 01:54 PM   #276
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a few of them went as far as to say it's like their own kids, they simply can't pick a favorite. they're all special in their own way.

I mean, ok. but Hummer vs. Widow Wake My Mind? which of those two songs do you think new SP will be playing on the anniversary tour?

 
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Old 01-24-2018, 02:16 PM   #277
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a few of them went as far as to say it's like their own kids, they simply can't pick a favorite. they're all special in their own way.

I mean, ok. but Hummer vs. Widow Wake My Mind? which of those two songs do you think new SP will be playing on the anniversary tour?
I seriously don't understand how people can listen to that shit and enjoy it. I love the Pumpkins, but I am a sane person and as much as I want it to be good, I have to admit it blows. Those people are just as batshit as D'arcy is.

 
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Old 01-24-2018, 02:35 PM   #278
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I’ve just discovered that they’ve banned me there. And I believe it has to do with me rating teargarden 0/10, and blocking a guy that harassed me over it.

Everyone else rated all of the records 10/10, lowest usually being 8/10. Beyond obnoxious.

 
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Old 01-24-2018, 02:41 PM   #279
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what facebook groups are you people even joining?
i'm part of one & frankly it's not all that different from netpho, save for one or two (less than popular) members

 
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Old 01-24-2018, 02:43 PM   #280
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what facebook groups are you people even joining?
i'm part of one & frankly it's not all that different from netpho, save for one or two (less than popular) members
The group Sad Machines is the one we're all talking about. I don't have much of a big problem with any of them but they do tend to get a little 'McGoo' about Bill & co.

 
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Old 01-24-2018, 02:46 PM   #281
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Hasn't D'arcy's old boyfriend Patrick and engaged Sad Machines-FB member given any comment on Linda Strawberry's ranting about D'arcy? He once told D'arcy to be more healthy than ever...

 
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Old 01-24-2018, 02:56 PM   #282
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a few of them went as far as to say it's like their own kids, they simply can't pick a favorite. they're all special in their own way.

I mean, ok. but Hummer vs. Widow Wake My Mind? which of those two songs do you think new SP will be playing on the anniversary tour?
If WWMM was my kid I wouldn't think twice about selling that babby to gypsies or leavin it on a mountainside

 
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Old 01-24-2018, 02:58 PM   #283
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Can't upset Billy or else he won't wear their shirt.

 
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Old 01-24-2018, 03:02 PM   #284
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no gypsy would ever buy that

 
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Old 01-24-2018, 03:03 PM   #285
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Can't upset Billy or else he won't wear their shirt.
Linda's got one too

 
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Old 01-24-2018, 03:25 PM   #286
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At least BILLY got his SAD MACHINES shirt for free as a gift. And definitively the ugliest of their three...

 
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Old 01-24-2018, 04:30 PM   #287
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Old 01-24-2018, 05:55 PM   #288
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Tired of being strung along, teased by the carrot of D'arcy's vicious bass playing. What are they going to do without her 4-string attack? Resurrect Charlie Mingus?

 
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Old 01-24-2018, 06:15 PM   #289
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Man, there's a bunch of babies on this thread. Oh no D'arcy! How can they play without D'arcy??!! Some of you feel pretty strongly about her bass playing, like she's Jaco Pastorius or something so I won't mention that.

One of two things are happening:

1- this is all bullshit to get the D'arcy rules contingent (i.e. this thread) really worked up and she will be part of it

2 - She is an absolute train wreck of a person that is in no shape for the whirlwind they are about to embark on. One would hope her reclusive behavior was indicative of a smart, level-headed individual who just wanted to escape the public hustle and bustle for the quiet, bucolic life in the hills of -er, um- Michigan. But, more than likely, she is crazy. She was a bumbling, stammering crackhead in the 90s. Who knows what shape she is in now. She's been absent from the spotlight for almost 20 years and the only things you hear about her are crazy. DUI, crack possession, her horses running wild through the town (as if a crackhead owned them), and her bizarre Facebook posts. Even this latest bit of news ended with a rambling think-out-loud crackhead excuse. Her Facebook pst where she blames someone for hacking her page sounds like one of those pitches you get from gas station drug addicts trying to bum money from you. Would you want to bring that on tour? They're not dicks if she is unhealthy

The 3 of them making new music and touring under the name SP is worth it. Yes, she is an original and was sort of cool, but she really couldn't keep up musically and every bass player since has been a fine replacement. It would be a better show with Melissa or Paz

I hope I'm wrong, but I think she's, um ... unfit to move forward and that would be hard for the band to announce publicly

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Old 01-24-2018, 06:18 PM   #290
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well then i'm out too. so tired of being strung along, this just sucks. why decide to go with a different bassist? what the hell happened there?
Haha, really?

 
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well then i'm out too. so tired of being strung along, this just sucks. why decide to go with a different bassist? what the hell happened there?
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There’s absolutely no point in a “reunion” then
Hahaha - seriously though?

 
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Old 01-24-2018, 06:19 PM   #292
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The only bad decision D'arcy made was to inclewd 'Blank' on Aeroplane instead of 'Towers of Rabble'

Billy's made about 800
Billy's also made about 800 songs to D'arcy's 0. And "Blank" is a good song!

 
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Old 01-24-2018, 06:20 PM   #293
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The sad thing is that she sounds disappointed. She really wanted to be part of this...
She sounds incoherent

 
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Old 01-24-2018, 06:34 PM   #294
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And "Blank" is a good song!
I was almost taking you seriously

 
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Old 01-24-2018, 06:42 PM   #295
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I am serious. It is a good song. Even better than Towers. D'arcy biggest contribution - other than her visible nipples in the Adore era - was that she had good taste. Her involvement would probably reduce 30% of the music since 2000 - or at least steer it in a different direction. Without her and possibly James to restrain Billy and Jimmy they turn into a prog rock band, which is less palatable than just a smidge of prog. I didn't realize their intangible contributions until much later

 
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Old 01-24-2018, 06:50 PM   #296
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Paz will never play with Billy again. Remember they were seemingly an item judging from the pictures around the time and video of them being really cozy, and then she banged Pajo and BC went shitless and blew up Zwan. They should have never had her join Zwan in the first place, they were fine as a four piece.

 
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Old 01-24-2018, 06:52 PM   #297
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She also happens to be in a much better band.

 
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Old 01-24-2018, 06:57 PM   #298
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Darcy killed it on bass anybody that says she sucked shut the fuck up.
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Paz will never play with Billy again. Remember they were seemingly an item judging from the pictures around the time and video of them being really cozy, and then she banged Pajo and BC went shitless and blew up Zwan. They should have never had her join Zwan in the first place, they were fine as a four piece.
I always heard about the Corgan vs. Pajo/Sweeney shit, but Paz seemed to be quiet about the whole thing whether it was professional courtesy or she didn't experience the same issues as the guys. Interesting.

She is the best bassist he's recorded with though. The Zwan bass lines are more melodic and have their own voice as opposed to the traditional SP method of strumming along with the guitar. Her backing vocals are great too

 
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She also happens to be in a much better band.
Well, I don't know if it's a "better band" but yeah - I guess. Maybe?

 
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sad machines won't approve me wtf did i do
I've been trying to get back in for weeks. I've answered the stupid questions but still can't get in. They have 3 admins, but nothing. Last time I was in there the cringe was so bad. It reminded me of everyone in the old AMSP early Netphoria days when the band was good and relevant and people actually cared. Only thing is they are now acting that way over the current band and it just makes me laugh and feel bad for them.

 
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