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Old 01-07-2019, 09:46 AM   #1
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Default Teargarden by Kaleidyscope Revisited

Vol. 1: Songs for a Sailor late 2009/early 2010











Vol. 2: The Solstice Bare 2010











Vol. 3 (Stand-alone songs) early 2011




 
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Old 01-07-2019, 09:47 AM   #2
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Old 01-07-2019, 09:48 AM   #3
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dude... No... Just no...

 
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Old 01-07-2019, 09:49 AM   #4
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lol, queued up:




 
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Old 01-07-2019, 09:50 AM   #5
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yeah it's bad. I did this recently. it just sounds like an artist having a complete mental and artistic breakdown and documenting it. the thing about revisiting is that the pain we experienced getting these songs in real time can never be communicated

 
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Old 01-07-2019, 09:52 AM   #6
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honestly, some of these songs are more interesting than the current stuff.

the songs themselves, not the production, performances, etc.

This is b4 billy discovered he could just loop 40 seconds over and over (like Dorian)

 
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Old 01-07-2019, 10:04 AM   #7
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honestly, some of these songs are more interesting than the current stuff.
Funny you say that. I just listened to Lightning Strikes for the first time in probably 8 years and while I still don't like it much, it'd be the 2nd best song on Shiny... And I mean that sincerely. It sorta sounds like a better up-tempo version of Travels.

 
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Old 01-07-2019, 09:56 AM   #8
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you know there's other artists you might find spending your time on is more worthwhile

 
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Old 01-07-2019, 10:09 AM   #9
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Old 01-07-2019, 10:53 PM   #10
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Like who

 
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Who?

 
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Old 01-08-2019, 05:07 AM   #12
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Old 01-07-2019, 09:58 AM   #13
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I can't believe that this came after Zeitgeist, what a strange strange strange and inconsistent man.

 
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Old 01-07-2019, 10:01 AM   #14
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I'm all for retrospective anniversaries, but if you had just waited another 10 - 12 months, it would have been the Perfect time to create a TBK 10 year anniversary/let's look back and look for the positives of this period ITT.

 
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Old 01-07-2019, 10:02 AM   #15
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I'm all for retrospective anniversaries, but if you had just waited another 10 - 12 months, it would have been the Perfect time to create a TBK 10 year anniversary/let's look back and look for the positives of this period ITT.
i think that if this thread reappeared in 12 months it wouldn't matter

 
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Old 01-07-2019, 10:06 AM   #16
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i think that if this thread reappeared in 12 months it wouldn't matter
TBK purists like me would care
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Old 01-07-2019, 10:03 AM   #17
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the watercolor art?

 
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Old 01-07-2019, 10:05 AM   #18
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the watercolor art?
Spirits in the Sky was pretty good imo, which I in-clude in the TBK era.

 
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Old 01-07-2019, 10:06 AM   #19
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In all honesty, Freak and Tom-Tom are pretty good songs. The rest are simply awful though... Compounded by the brutal way that the songs were drip-fed.

 
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Old 01-07-2019, 10:27 AM   #20
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I don't mind it, I just don't really consider it SP. I just think of it as BC solo and it's more acceptable then.

I like Song For a Son, zero Pumpkins vibes but quite a nice tune, with a really good guitar solo.

Astral Planes I just like for no reason at all; sometimes you just like things you can't explain. I guess I like the guitar sound, the rhythm, the bongoes, and while the lyrics aren't good the middle 8 is a nice moment.

Freak / Widow / Stitch / Fellowship are all "grand" in my book, I wouldn't rush out to listen to them but if they came on shuffle I would listen to them (well, probably to about half way point ). Spangled and Tom Tom I'm not so fond of, I'd struggle to even hum the melodies.

Lightning Strikes is rather good too, and I'm one of the few who like Owata.

So 5/10 in terms of the music, however 0/10 for a Pumpkins project.

 
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Old 01-07-2019, 10:29 AM   #21
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Took and JJ speak the truth. Instead of listening to this complete and utter crud, listen to some live Fleetwood Mac in all their prodigious epic 80's glory



Melodic gold my friends, melodic gold.

 
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Old 01-07-2019, 10:30 AM   #22
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Old 01-07-2019, 11:37 AM   #23
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Something something Peanuts gang dancing to Widow Wake My Mind (or some such song).

 
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At least it was kind of cool that they did a lot of fan friendly things in that era.

This would've been pretty sweet to see


 
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Old 01-07-2019, 12:09 PM   #25
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Freak's ok

Tom Tom is an SP2 highlight

Fellowship is one of his better "synth-crazy" tunes, post-TFE (and yes i realize this is a very low bar but hey, i wanted at least 1 more positive)

 
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Old 01-08-2019, 05:23 AM   #26
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Tom Tom is an SP2 highlight
Until you hear the original Backwards Clock Society version. THIS should have been Billy's main gig: a stripped-back psychedelic 3 piece. But of course Billy needed to shoehorn authentic artistry into commercial radio fodder for SP2.

This is how TBK should have sounded:


 
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Until you hear the original Backwards Clock Society version. THIS should have been Billy's main gig: a stripped-back psychedelic 3 piece. But of course Billy needed to shoehorn authentic artistry into commercial radio fodder for SP2.

This is how TBK should have sounded:

I prefer the guitar intro and verses here, but the chorus doesn’t have the same punch as the studio version.

It’s one of those songs you imagine could’ve been a minor hit in an alternate timeline where Billy didn’t piss everything away chasing that “radio hit sound” that no radio ever plays.

 
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Until you hear the original Backwards Clock Society version. THIS should have been Billy's main gig: a stripped-back psychedelic 3 piece. But of course Billy needed to shoehorn authentic artistry into commercial radio fodder for SP2.

This is how TBK should have sounded:

that's a really good way of describing his downfall as an artist: the need to put that commercial sheen on everything.

 
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damn, backwards clock society was the shit. loving this.

 
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musically, Freak is Pisces-level. if we had only heard the instrumental, and had some modicum of hope that Bald Baby would stop singing like a cocky hawk, it would be a very exciting thing

 
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