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Old 07-05-2018, 11:17 PM   #271
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apparently today libertarian can mean racist fucktard internet troll

that's interesting because it's not the definition I was taught in school

 
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Old 07-05-2018, 11:18 PM   #272
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Trump is not a libertarian or populist he is just an extreme right conservative

his policy centers around extreme nationalism, authoritarianism and traditionalism, or in a single word: fascism

 
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Old 07-05-2018, 11:18 PM   #273
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you can't close borders and be libertarian. it's an absolutely direct contradiction to the core ideology. you can't restrict trade and the movement of people and be libertarian. that's like being a socialist who slashes regulations and taxes to help the rich

 
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Old 07-05-2018, 11:20 PM   #274
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can you guys keep your alt-left babbling to the politics thread?

 
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Old 07-05-2018, 11:20 PM   #275
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apparently today libertarian can mean racist fucktard internet troll

that's interesting because it's not the definition I was taught in school
well yeah you ask them about open borders and amnesty they freak the fuck out despite it being the actual position of the US Libertarian Party

because the percentage of actual capitalist libertarians is so minuscule, it's conservatives by a different name

I know you know this though

 
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Old 07-05-2018, 11:21 PM   #276
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Trump is not a libertarian or populist he is just an extreme right conservative

his policy centers around extreme nationalism, authoritarianism and traditionalism, or in a single word: fascism
fascism and populism are kind of similar/overlapping I think, but yes, he's just a far right authoritarian

 
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Old 07-05-2018, 11:21 PM   #277
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can you guys keep your alt-left babbling to the politics thread?
why don't you fucking shut you god damn mouth while the grown ups are speaking

you might actually learn something you chimp

 
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Old 07-05-2018, 11:24 PM   #278
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fascism and populism are kind of similar/overlapping I think, but yes, he's just a far right authoritarian
I think populist is pretty neutral

there's left populism and right populism and they mean different things

 
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Old 07-05-2018, 11:25 PM   #279
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agreed, populist can mean many things, but it's about the general will of the people. Fascism is also about the general will. Sometimes I wonder if Hitler and Mussolini were influenced by Rousseau but couldn't say so because he was French

 
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Old 07-05-2018, 11:38 PM   #280
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I imagine Sanders doing tariffs as well provided he could combine it with taxes on corporations that outsource

democrats now being the champion party of free trade is a bit problematic for me, both Ocasio-Cortez and my local Beto have nothing in their platform about outsourcing or trade deals that hurt workers

mainly an issue that's important to the Midwest, but democrats can't afford to lose the Midwest in 2020

 
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Old 07-05-2018, 11:56 PM   #281
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do you think beto can win

like is it within the realm of possibility

 
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Old 07-06-2018, 12:56 AM   #282
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he's down in the polls

but the biggest issue is that 50% of those poll'd just didn't know who he was

so we'll see, I just think because less than half of Texans have a favorable view of Cruz, this is a pretty good chance

 
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Old 07-06-2018, 08:06 AM   #283
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do you think beto can win

like is it within the realm of possibility
No

 
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Old 07-06-2018, 08:07 AM   #284
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People like us will throw money at it but no. We’re fucked. When one side only cares about making the other side sad, they will always win.

 
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Old 07-06-2018, 08:19 AM   #285
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do you think beto can win

like is it within the realm of possibility
It’s within the realm of possibility

But not likely

He had 1000 people show up in Denton, which admittedly is a blue town, but in a red county

No idea, but I am voting Beto obviously

If he was going up against anyone else I’d say he had no chance but since it’s Cruz and most of the GOP hates him, Beto has a shot

The straight ticket voters are the issue

 
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Old 07-06-2018, 10:09 AM   #286
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i suggest you really take it to another thread before you make CW more delusional about his theory being popular -- because the number of pages for this thread is in the thousands!

 
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Old 07-07-2018, 03:50 AM   #287
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The latest IP reading would appear to suggest that 132.251.150.157 people have now visited the summary page.

 
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