Bush is opening for Smashing Pumpkins

[fuzzyroes]

Cold contagious is an awesome song... But the album version is WAYYYYYYY better. The radio edit cuts out the best parts and sorta ruins the song in my opinion.

[fuzzyroes]

This versions WAYYYYYYYYYYYY better... Nigels awesome guitar work is the highlight of the track, and the radio/music video version completely takes out a lot of his parts.

This is easily my favorite Bush track. If you haven't heard it I highly recommend you check it out.

I think its pretty cool that Bush is opening up for the Pumpkins... Beats the emo christian shit that Corgan brought along with them their last tour.

[MonteLDS]

this gets me thinking what other bands that still are around might be odd to have open for SP.

ie Pavement.

[soniclovenoize]

[slunken]

bush is shit w/out nigel

[Starla]

Gavin Rossdale is still hot, so this is okay w/ me. I'll come to see Bush and leave when sp gets on.

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by reprise85

first bush album is awful.

it really is a huge piece of shit

[zbeast78]

Originally Posted by MonteLDS

this gets me thinking what other bands that still are around might be odd to have open for SP.

ie Pavement.

Pavement opening for SP isn't quite the level of Jimi Hendrix opening for the Monkees, but it is pretty ridiculous. It'd be worth it to see the two different fanbases interacting.

[KManXC]

I like glycerine

[vajohna]

Originally Posted by Starla

I'll come to see bush.

Plus one.

[Cool As Ice Cream]

i've never heard any of their albums.

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by MacGyver

How could anyone not like at least the first Bush album?

[slunken]

Originally Posted by MacGyver

Never understood what Gavin meant by calling MCIS 'hi-fi coffee table music',

i'm looking for the actual quote i read the other day but they (nigel/gavin) said it sounded like elton john too

[slunken]

GuitarWorld - ... and it sounds like...
pulsford: Elton John
rossdale: well, elton john at the beginning - horrible piano. but it sounds like they want to bve some sort of a hi-fi coffee-table rock band now. its quite heavy metal, some of it? i think its horrible.
pulsford: it sounds like judas priest
rossdale: which you can hear on the record. i've only heard it once. i bought it and then gave it to someone. i thought it would bve really good.
GW: well, billy corgan makes no bones about liking all that...
pulsford: crap?
rossdale: and he doesn't make any bones about putting it on his record either. you can hear that he likes heavy metal. i don't even know what black sabbath sounds like. that was not a big scene for me. i went from punk to reggae to some hip hop and indie stuff like the fall. they were the original alternative band, to my mind.

http://onesecondbush.com/PDFs/Bush69.pdf

[Trotskilicious]

hahahaha the fall huh jesus whatever you fuckin third rate grungeturd band

[T&T]

i don't even know what black sabbath sounds like.

'nuff said.

[pavementtune]

So two married/engaged guys have a fling with the same woman, and C_Wilson MacGyver calls her "that whore." Classic.

Can you write me more pms how I should fuck my dog?

[Trotskilicious]

i think mark e. smith would spit on gavin rossdale and call him a pillock

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by MacGyver

How could anyone not like at least the first Bush album? Even today I could put that album on and listen to it from beginning to end.

Yeah the first album is pretty sweet... But a couple of the songs have aged really badly... The singles are are all fantastic and songs like Alien are sweet.

I've always liked Bush though. I can see why people think they're rip offs and all but I've always loved Nigels guitar work and Rossdale has a really cool sounding voice. The rest of the band is pretty tight too.

The new stuff is pretty weak though... Theres a few really cool songs but overall it falls short... Just like Oceania actually. So the billing really is a match made in heaven

[croPUMPKINS]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

it really is a huge piece of shit

coming from you, some kid reading this board would conclude it must masterpiece,
still, it is better than Ocenia, truth be told.

[Catherine Wheel]

Science Of Things is their only decent album. It has some really beautiful heart-wrenching songs. It feels like they really put forth some effort on that one unlike the first two.

[soniclovenoize]

I've always felt Swallowed was very Pumpkinesque for some reason...



Just imagine Corgan singing this instead of Gavin, and of course a more Corganesque lyric. It could totally be an Zero b-side. Maybe.

When I was a teenager I really liked Razordblade Suitcase. Not sure if it was the production or the fact that I wanted to be different from everyone else who loved Sixteen Stone but was alienated by Razorblade Suitcase, not sure. I'm afraid to listen to it today though, I'm certain ti hasn't aged well.

Also Gavin's lyrics are fucking horrible. He's one of many post-grunge songwriters who listened to Nirvana and thought "Oh I can write bullshit lyrics and it's OK!" without really mastering the concept of saying both nothing and everything simultaneously (I've always felt that Cobain had this amazing way of writing completely bullshit lyrics that somehow had a deeper meaning). All that was left was Gavin saying absolutely nothing but disjointed random thoughts strung together in song. But even worse was that each line really had no meaning or purpose itself. I could understand and allow this disjointedness if each line would hold some poetic value, but they didn't. It's just simply some of the absolute worse lyrics I've ever fucking heard in my life from a popular songwriter.

There must be something we can eat
Maybe find another lover
Should I fly to Los Angeles
Find my asshole brother
Mickey Mouse has grown up a cow
Dave's on sale again
We kissy kiss in the rear view
We're so bored
You're to blame

[pavementtune]

Have you heard his solo album, Wanderlust? That's unbearable.

[Catherine Wheel]

There was a sense of sarcasm and insincerity to Cobain's lyrics. Rossdale's lyrics are just stream of consciousness.

[slunken]

We"re so poor is the lyric I think iirc

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by Catherine Wheel

There was a sense of sarcasm and insincerity to Cobain's lyrics. Rossdale's lyrics are just stream of consciousness.

nonsensical bullshit is not stream of consciousness

[Catherine Wheel]

I don't think Rossdale is that different from the way David Byrne was writing in Talking Heads at times. His lyrics could be pretty bizarre and absurdist and out there. Byrne could definitely be stream of consciousness.

[Trotskilicious]

who is worse, weiland or rossdale?

[Catherine Wheel]

Take time with a wounded hand -- Cause it likes to heal
Take time with a wounded hand -- Cause I like to steal

or how about this one?

campfire girls make me feel alright

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by Catherine Wheel

I don't think Rossdale is that different from the way David Byrne was writing in Talking Heads at times.

well i think you have trouble with metaphor, which isn't surprising. there's no metaphor to rossdale, ever. unless you want to be incredibly generous.

but with byrne? Born Under Punches (The Heat Goes On) is about people starving to death, probably in Africa (because of the heat), because of a corrupt government. But he's never direct about it. He is very brilliant.

"Stream of conciousness" is a literary technique employed famously by Joyce and Faulkner that intends to simulate the interior dialogue. It's generally unrelatable to lyrics (because you don't think lyrically, i mean maybe somebody does i'll grant that), and is not just "stringing words together." The Quentin part of The Sound and the Fury is a very good example of creating an emotional picture through a disjointed narrative.