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Old 03-03-2016, 07:50 AM   #1
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(This sort of thread may already exist, if so you have my profound apologies)

Since the early 1990s I honestly can't think of any other band that was remotely like SP. They were out there carving their niche and they did it incredibly well. No other group would or could pull off the grandeur of MCIS

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Old 03-03-2016, 10:19 AM   #2
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Just listen to Hummer. No one else can do anything like Hummer

The tight, hypnotic drum/bass intro, the guitar coming in with nut bends and shit, crescendos inside crescendos, then a complete 180 to a smooth, jazzy outro with amazing, beautiful guitar parts

There is no other song like Hummer.

 
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Old 03-03-2016, 10:50 AM   #3
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Radiohead?

OK Computer is quite grand

In fact OK Computer is maybe a greater accomplishment than MCIS biases aside

 
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Old 03-03-2016, 11:44 AM   #4
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(This sort of thread may already exist, if so you have my profound apologies)

Since the early 1990s I honestly can't think of any other band that was remotely like SP. They were out they carving their niche and they did it incredibly well. No other group would or could pull off the grandeur of MCIS
I would argue that Puscifer is (one of the few bands) bringing it these days. Money Shot is fucking incredible... plenty of grandeur.

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Radiohead?

OK Computer is quite grand

In fact OK Computer is maybe a greater accomplishment than MCIS biases aside
OK computer was a milestone album, but everything they have done post-Amnesiac has tarnished the legacy, IMO. (sound familiar???)
to be honest, i haven't listened to the last album or two... 'hail the the thief' runied it for me.

 
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Old 03-03-2016, 11:52 AM   #5
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Hail to the Thief is amazing imo

My favorite Radiohead album I think

2000s Radiohead actually surpassed 90s Radiohead on many levels it's not at all like SP

 
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Old 03-03-2016, 03:11 PM   #6
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radiohead sucks
i'll piss on radiohead

 
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Old 03-03-2016, 04:46 PM   #7
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Radiohead>SP

objectively.

Virtuoso man child who tapped into teenage angst to get popular vs. the smartest band to be able to sell out arenas within the last 20 years

That's why Radiohead is still able to make good music well into their 40's, they're just smart dudes

 
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Old 03-03-2016, 05:29 PM   #8
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i'll piss on ur mom who will quaff the golden shower
don't diss radiohead, motherfucker.

also tsp werent shit compared to mbv or melvins or sleep or a ton of other bands i do not know about but i am sure were making senescent tunes during the 90s

 
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Old 03-03-2016, 09:05 PM   #9
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I never liked The Band. Sounds like civil war reenactment music.

 
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Old 03-03-2016, 09:44 PM   #10
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I never liked The Band. Sounds like civil war reenactment music.
Haha yeah they do if you get the wrong CD

Try music from the big pink though it's phenomenal

 
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Old 03-03-2016, 11:47 PM   #11
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Radiohead>SP

objectively.

Virtuoso man child who tapped into teenage angst to get popular vs. the smartest band to be able to sell out arenas within the last 20 years

That's why Radiohead is still able to make good music well into their 40's, they're just smart dudes
this is interesting

i'd say as a solitary songwriter, corgan might be slightly better than thom yorke, if only for how prolific and diverse he was.

but as collaborators, radiohead are definitely better, smarter, and more musical than corgan could ever be.

 
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Old 03-04-2016, 12:35 AM   #12
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Radiohead's OK computer was a great concept album (about alienation and capitalism- am I right?)
But no one was doing those quixotic high-romantic songs apart from SP

 
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Old 03-04-2016, 01:58 AM   #13
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I agree with OP. I'm not aware of any other band with more shades and colors and strange unnameable emotional nuances in their vast catalogue. That's why I'm here.

Also for the support group camaraderie re bill's downward artistic spiral

Oh and radioheads a kickass and interesting band IMO but nowhere fucking near as entertaining and meaningful to me as the best of SP

 
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Old 03-04-2016, 03:39 AM   #14
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original SP could give a soundtrack to teenage crushes especially SD and MCIS

Maybe The Cure was the most similar to SP

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Old 03-04-2016, 11:30 AM   #15
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Also, Elphenor, your radiohead>SP "objectively" theorem strikes me as tantamount to positing that brain>heart. Which, ok, maybe sometimes but certainly not always

Sure, Radiohead's more consistently cerebral and so (I guess) "smart" like you say, but that also lends a certain coldness/sterility to their tunes IMO. Whereas the best of SP is so hot/close and candid and emotionally spot-on that sometimes I can't even stand it

 
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Old 03-04-2016, 09:53 PM   #16
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Silverchair's catalogue is pretty diverse. Not sure whether it's at the level of SP, but it's close.

 
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Old 03-04-2016, 10:05 PM   #17
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Haha yeah they do if you get the wrong CD

Try music from the big pink though it's phenomenal
That's basically a Dylan album

 
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Old 03-05-2016, 12:37 AM   #18
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Radiohead?

OK Computer is quite grand

In fact OK Computer is maybe a greater accomplishment than MCIS biases aside
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Old 03-05-2016, 02:24 AM   #19
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SP was/is better than Radiohead easily. The reaction that people who hate SP have to Billy's voice is the reaction I have to Thom's voice.

Gish > Pablo Honey (great debut by SP, so-so debut by Radiohead)
Siamese Dream > The Bends (genre defining album by SP, and a collection of "pretty
good songs" by Radiohead)
Mellon Collie > OK Computer (both epic albums, but come on...you can't top MCIS)
Adore = Kid A (both turning points, Kid A was more critically lauded but CAN already did all this shit in the 70's)
Machina = Hail to the Thief (the difficult album)
Zeitgeist < In Rainbows (yeah, they won this one)
Oceania = King of Limbs (they both sucked)

 
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Old 03-05-2016, 02:26 AM   #20
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hmmmm no

 
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Old 03-05-2016, 04:40 AM   #21
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Adore = Kid A (both turning points, Kid A was more critically lauded but CAN already did all this shit in the 70's)
You should be charged for crimes against humanity for writing this. Kid A is a masterpiece. Adore is... Hmmmm... Tolerable.

 
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Old 03-05-2016, 05:20 AM   #22
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You should be charged for crimes against humanity for writing this. Kid A is a masterpiece. Adore is... Hmmmm... Tolerable.

one of Adore's flaws was it was overly long with a few too may tracks

 
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Old 03-05-2016, 09:33 AM   #23
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Gaydiohead is just like latter day shit pumpkins, where everything is all obtuse and inaccessible on purpose.

 
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Old 03-05-2016, 09:36 AM   #24
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Billy Corgan can write better songs than Radiohead. Radiohead doesn't have one good song, Billy has at least 25 great songs

 
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Old 03-05-2016, 10:30 AM   #25
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SP was/is better than Radiohead easily. The reaction that people who hate SP have to Billy's voice is the reaction I have to Thom's voice.

Gish > Pablo Honey (great debut by SP, so-so debut by Radiohead)
Siamese Dream > The Bends (genre defining album by SP, and a collection of "pretty
good songs" by Radiohead)
Mellon Collie > OK Computer (both epic albums, but come on...you can't top MCIS)
Adore = Kid A (both turning points, Kid A was more critically lauded but CAN already did all this shit in the 70's)
Machina = Hail to the Thief (the difficult album)
Zeitgeist < In Rainbows (yeah, they won this one)
Oceania = King of Limbs (they both sucked)
lol wat

 
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Gaydiohead is just like latter day shit pumpkins, where everything is all obtuse and inaccessible on purpose.
I mean if you're simple minded maybe it seems "obtuse and inaccessible"

and judging by your use of "gay"...

 
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Old 03-05-2016, 10:50 AM   #27
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Just listen to Hummer. No one else can do anything like Hummer

The tight, hypnotic drum/bass intro, the guitar coming in with nut bends and shit, crescendos inside crescendos, then a complete 180 to a smooth, jazzy outro with amazing, beautiful guitar parts

There is no other song like Hummer.
LISTEN TO MORE MUSIC

 
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Old 03-05-2016, 10:51 AM   #28
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Billy Corgan can write better songs than Radiohead. Radiohead doesn't have one good song, Billy has at least 25 great songs
Oh wait I see you're trolling alright then

 
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Old 03-05-2016, 10:57 AM   #29
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lol at "Can already did this in the 70's"

Can wasn't even the first band to do it

As if there exists a single thing SP did that wasn't already done by a band in the 70's

 
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Old 03-05-2016, 12:22 PM   #30
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The band's unique appeal is they are great musically and convey the feeling of being a kid in the midwest from a broken home who grew up feeling like no one loved them. I mean that's most of us right? If not I don't know what horrible things were done to you as a youngster to make you attracted to this stuff.

 
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