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12-17-2015, 11:48 PM | #1 |
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It's all Jeff's fault
lets just blame Jeff for everything
this guy: http://i.imgur.com/08ixx6P.jpg just die jeff, you ruined smashing pumpkins, just die. or just quit the band, I don't care. go away. |
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12-18-2015, 12:31 AM | #2 |
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yeah fuck jeff
Whenever he plays James' noise solo in Zero it sounds like exactly the same approach Mike Burns took when playing Jimmy's parts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFlPo7BG9ug&t=2m35s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3r597hj57o&t=1m54s Last edited by Ram27 : 12-18-2015 at 01:01 AM. |
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12-18-2015, 01:36 AM | #3 |
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Yeah but whose fault is Jeff?
. . . . WPC's |
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12-18-2015, 02:10 AM | #4 |
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Attention Jeff:
For Christmas, GO FUCK YOURSELF |
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12-18-2015, 04:47 AM | #5 |
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JEFF <3
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12-18-2015, 05:15 AM | #6 |
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jeff? who is jeff?
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12-18-2015, 05:55 AM | #7 |
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Isn't is Jimmys fault Jeff got in the band? I remember reading that Jimmy jammed with him for a bit before introducing him to Billy..?
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12-18-2015, 05:57 AM | #8 |
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The guy waltzes in. Alienates James and D'arcy by being a bit rough around the edges, a bit tough, a bit too streetwise. Then he gets Jeff in the band. Then he leaves. Jimmy is the problem
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12-18-2015, 07:04 AM | #9 |
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12-18-2015, 10:14 AM | #10 |
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Ladies Love Cool Jeff
https://spfreaks.files.wordpress.com...y-05.jpg?w=549 |
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12-18-2015, 10:40 AM | #11 |
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12-18-2015, 01:42 PM | #12 |
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i bet you jeff got down with both of those ladies, showed them some vigorous asian love.
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12-18-2015, 10:44 PM | #13 | |
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12-18-2015, 10:46 PM | #14 | |
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12-19-2015, 12:12 AM | #15 |
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12-19-2015, 09:32 AM | #16 |
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Ginger came back in 2010 though. Funny to think she also played with Mike
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12-19-2015, 09:43 AM | #17 |
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That show was anachronistically good
Mikey played nicely, Billy's vocals are pretty good What the hell happened |
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12-19-2015, 09:57 AM | #18 |
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I remember reading from someone that Nicole was saying that Mike just couldn't keep up with the touring schedules. Sure, the kid can probably sound pretty good for an hour when he jams out every now and again, but going on month long tours playing 3 hours a night is a different story.
The kid was as soft as it gets. You look at his body type and it's just chubby, weak, not very strong, doing a long ass SP set isn't an easy task. It takes strength and stamina. I remember hearing that on the Oceania tour Byrne was just breaking down and had to keep getting cortisone shots in his wrists and all of that was pissing Billy off. Was likely a big reason why he cut his ties with him after. |
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12-19-2015, 10:06 AM | #19 |
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what's your source on that?
I heard mikey was taking heroin. |
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12-19-2015, 10:08 AM | #20 |
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Ginger was my jam
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12-19-2015, 10:10 AM | #21 |
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I think it was from someone here. May have been Juliana or one of the other homers- maybe someone who doesn't post regularly, I can't remember. But they said they were talking with Nicole at one of the shows on the Oceania tour and that she was pretty bummed out and that Mikes wrists sounded like cement mixers due to playing so much and that he had to keep getting cortisone shots.
Could have been someone talkin' outta there ass, but I believed it. Would have been a pretty dumb thing to lie about for no reason. Search Mike and cortisone and it should come up in the search results |
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12-19-2015, 10:15 AM | #22 | |
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Should've done heroin instead
He has the most unergonomic playing style, that makes sense. I mean you can get away with playing like Dave Grohl if you're playing Nirvana parts, but not SP parts. He was probably playing like 6+ hours a day, with practice, soundcheck, the VIP stuff, warming up, and the show Quote:
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12-19-2015, 10:15 AM | #23 |
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It makes perfect sense though. You take a kid with no touring history whatsoever and throw him to the wolves in a big production playing long ass sets of pretty taxing drum work every night and the kids gonna break down, just no 2 ways around it.
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12-19-2015, 10:17 AM | #24 | |
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12-19-2015, 10:19 AM | #25 | |
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Don't get me wrong, even on short club tours it always felt like SP was taking a huge step down in their rhythm section. But like you mentioned, you hear him on the record store show and while it's not "great" by SP standards it's still "hey he's not too bad"... But you start hearing him during a tour and it's just like "fuckkk, this isn't working" |
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12-19-2015, 10:20 AM | #26 |
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I mean the drumming on Oceania kinda sucks so it can't be blamed on fatigue alone, but damn, during the tour at times you could tell he was just struggling majorly. Simply couldn't fill the shoes of being an SP drummer.
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12-19-2015, 10:23 AM | #27 | |
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Definitely not surprising though, you just can't throw an inexperienced drummer to the wolves like that. Even seasoned vets get their hands all torn up and shit from drumming every night. And then you throw Byrne to the wolves, a kid with no "man strength" at all... Fucking Corgan |
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12-19-2015, 10:29 AM | #28 |
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12-19-2015, 10:45 AM | #29 |
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Kicking around a studio, playing some club dates and the odd festival date is A LOT different than going on the full blown tour they did for Oash
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12-19-2015, 10:54 AM | #30 |
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Fuck, I was just revisiting some ole Teargarden stuff on youtube. I was actually kinda digging the performance of "Freak" at that Terminal pro-shot show. I remember it was one of my favorites of the era, so I go and listen to the Teargarden version after and fuckkkkkkkkkk, that production succccccccccckssssssssssssss
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