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08-19-2015, 03:48 PM | #151 | |
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I didn't catalog all the things I've read and seen over the years and yes, some of it was from BC rants. I read things about their (James/D'arcy) disdain for the long hours and Billy taking over in the studio, which means they didn't want to be part of his vision. I never read anything about Jimmy complaining about hours spent practicing and recording -ever. You know why? Because he nailed his parts. |
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08-19-2015, 03:55 PM | #152 | |
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08-19-2015, 04:02 PM | #153 |
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I see James as a guy - under Billy's tutelage - that became a very interesting sonic counterpart with his guitar. I also see his songs as a sweet, genuine counterweight to the grandiose approach to the rest of the catalog. Alone they suck. In the canon of SP they are important.
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08-19-2015, 09:10 PM | #154 |
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The Boy is as good as any SP1 song and should have been on MCIS
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08-19-2015, 09:13 PM | #155 |
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SD's guitars have like a million crafted overdubs that's how you end up with a situation where due to time constraints Billy played them all
But the songs were still written as a collaborative effort and there does not exist a performance where an SP song played live without James doesn't sound lacking Also MCIS is SP's best album largely because you can actually hear James playing |
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08-19-2015, 09:29 PM | #156 |
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08-19-2015, 11:02 PM | #157 | |
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Also many of my favorite live performances are Zwan. Sweeney was much better as a Corgan collaborator and live guitarist than James was, in my opinion. Really I think Jeff just sucks and that has skewed every show since 2007 on the underwhelming side. |
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08-20-2015, 12:06 AM | #158 | |
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Jimmy was a drug addict and would vanish for days, have you really read those stupid rants? The only reason he "nailed it" was because billy could not play the drums like Jimmy could, otherwise it would be a completely different story. Worst things Billy's done since the comeback: 1- Shutting down the oboard 2- TGBK 3- Everything else |
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08-20-2015, 12:19 AM | #159 |
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RIP James Iha
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08-20-2015, 01:21 AM | #160 |
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08-20-2015, 01:51 AM | #161 | |
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Nice avatar tho |
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08-20-2015, 01:54 AM | #162 |
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I hope James gets at least a little vindication from SP being pretty shit without him
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08-20-2015, 10:43 AM | #163 |
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pretty shit? lol ok bro.
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08-27-2015, 05:04 AM | #164 |
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08-28-2015, 11:04 AM | #165 |
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not a single one of those fellows looks like a decent, upstanding (and whole-hearted) hetero.
what is this world coming to? |
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08-28-2015, 11:27 AM | #166 |
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James looks like vintage '95
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09-03-2015, 07:50 AM | #167 |
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he looks so great. i love this man.
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09-03-2015, 03:45 PM | #168 |
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in a totally non-sexual way tho, of course, it goes without saying, right?
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09-03-2015, 05:27 PM | #169 |
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I'd do him
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09-03-2015, 08:16 PM | #170 |
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this milquetoast angel
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09-03-2015, 09:21 PM | #171 | |
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I love him like an older brother, or father, I guess. I mean I think that, because I haven't had a particularly functional relationship with my own father, and I don't have an older brother, so I can't really know for sure. But I think it's like that kind of love. |
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09-10-2015, 03:58 PM | #172 |
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I bought Look to the Sky on vinyl today
It's really nice. The digital stuff that turned me off originally sounds a lot smoother and nicer on the record. Side A is like...Smashing Pumpkins minus Jimmy and Billy's obsessive production values |
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09-10-2015, 04:10 PM | #173 |
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I agree, I think the first half truly proves Iha's contributions to SP.
To Who Knows Where is really nice. |
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09-11-2015, 09:04 AM | #174 |
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Have you lain with your father or brother?
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09-11-2015, 11:29 AM | #175 |
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What the fuck.
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09-11-2015, 11:48 PM | #176 |
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I have this theory (drunk man's theory, have in mind)
In his first solo album, James was trying to get away from the sound of the pumpkins, as far as he could Just as when when Billy got the pumpkins back, he too was trying to get the sound of the SP2.0 as far as he could from James contributions to SP1 After a few years James decided to release his second album with both old and new songs (he did not care if they sounded like the pumpkins or not, he wasn't thinking about the pumpkins anymore) Great, now I'm gonna grab another drink |
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09-12-2015, 12:16 AM | #177 |
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I remember climbing into bed with him when I was very young and my Mum was away visiting her family with my younger brother. I was maybe 6 or 7...old enough to understand that it was weird and to feel weird about loving my Dad and being in bed with him like my Mum usually was. It was really sad because I just wanted to be close to him but he wasn't really very physically intimate or affectionate with anyone so I guess it made him uncomfortable and I picked up on that.
I slept next to my brothers a bunch of times but they're both younger, so I mothered them rather than the other way around. Well, when I wasn't being a coldhearted bitch to them, I guess. |
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09-12-2015, 12:21 AM | #178 |
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ಠ_ಠ
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09-18-2015, 08:07 AM | #179 |
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Is there a version of Summer with Jimmy on drums?
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09-18-2015, 10:02 AM | #180 |
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Ha ha!
Threads gettin hilarious Thanks guys! |
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