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11-09-2016, 11:09 PM | #91 | |
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You could be the next person to start a revolution. |
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11-09-2016, 11:19 PM | #92 | |
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11-09-2016, 11:25 PM | #93 |
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so did scotty sell in the morning like he said? just before it went back up?
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11-09-2016, 11:31 PM | #94 |
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11-09-2016, 11:39 PM | #95 |
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11-09-2016, 11:48 PM | #96 | |
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O'care premiums are skyrocketing on the working class and you can't subsidize your way out of the problem because that money comes from taxes and what's left of the middle class america is just about taxed out of existence. Technically we'd had universal health care, but it would be paramount to the old soviet eastern bloc ones, where they'd just let old people die in the streets. What's most amazing is the lack of education towards these collectivist centralized authoritarian methods and their utter failure over the last century. But hey, Hillary was gonna double down on it all and liberals ate it up just like the tens of millions of old soviet style communist who were also too ignorant to understand the demagogic tactics of their rulers. |
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11-10-2016, 12:28 AM | #97 |
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you're really quite obsessed with communists
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11-10-2016, 12:34 AM | #98 |
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I'm a liberal communist fascist libertarian establishment centrist.
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11-10-2016, 12:34 AM | #99 |
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That's why I advocated for Clinton.
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11-10-2016, 12:37 AM | #100 |
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Don't worry DK, In time you're going to learn how to respect, honor and look up to President Trump.
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11-10-2016, 12:39 AM | #101 | |
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11-10-2016, 01:36 AM | #102 |
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This lady assigns you to assemble a crack team of progressives to fix the fragmented American Left and save the country. Who do you choose? Also I'd put Zizek on it so that he would be the guy who ends up dying. |
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11-10-2016, 02:17 AM | #103 |
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I guess Bernie because Warren has more years left to live.
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11-10-2016, 02:49 AM | #104 |
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We need loudmouth obnoxious fatass religious liberals like Michael Moore
The Bill Maher types fuck us Noam Chomsky might as well be speaking another language Warren is a woman |
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11-10-2016, 02:52 AM | #105 |
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I mean MM is Noam Chomsky books translated into something average people understand
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11-10-2016, 03:20 AM | #106 |
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11-10-2016, 06:52 AM | #107 | |
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11-10-2016, 07:21 AM | #108 | |
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11-10-2016, 07:30 AM | #109 |
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Lol
He said almost everything about everything leading up to this point. “It’s always good to do things nice and complicated so that nobody can figure it out.” (The New Yorker, May 19, 1997) “The simplest approach is often the most effective.” (Trump: The Art of the Deal, 1987) “My attention span is short.” (Trump: Surviving at the Top, 1990) “I have an attention span that’s as long as it has to be.” (Time, August 18, 2015) “I’m totally pro-choice.” (Fox News, October 31, 1999) “I’m pro-life.” (CPAC, February 10, 2011) “Look, I’m very pro-choice. I hate the concept of abortion. I hate it. I hate everything it stands for. I cringe when I listen to people debating the subject, but you still—I just believe in choice. … I am strongly for choice, and yet I hate the concept of abortion. … I am pro-choice in every respect … but I just hate it.” (NBC News, October 24, 1999) “I am very, very proud to say that I’m pro-life.” (Cleveland, Ohio, August 6, 2015) “People are too trusting. I’m a very untrusting guy.” (Playboy, March 1990) “Expect the best from people.” (Trump: Think Big, 2007) “If you can avoid an altercation, do so.” (Trump: Think Like a Billionaire, 2004) “If someone attacks you, do not hesitate. Go for the jugular.” (Trump: Think Big, 2007) |
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11-10-2016, 10:28 AM | #110 |
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There are a lot of reasons why Trump as president is disturbing
But up against Clinton...I have to say, for me - foreign policy isn't one of them. Just wanted to put that out there. |
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11-10-2016, 11:18 AM | #111 |
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Well I did try to tell him that. Twice.
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11-10-2016, 12:30 PM | #112 |
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And everyone knows if something is hard to change, it's obviously right.
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11-10-2016, 01:28 PM | #113 |
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11-10-2016, 01:57 PM | #114 | ||
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Cenk Uygar is one of the few leftists who was saying, "look, when you point out how Trump is bigoted and a loudmouth, you're just reinforcing the support of his supporters." Cenk instead tried to go for something that would actually make Trump's supporters abandon him, deflating the illusion Trump is some sort of successful, ambitious strongman who "gets things done." Pointing out his failures, like how all his businesses go belly-up, all the scams he's been involved in, all the times he's defaulted, how he's just a guy who got millions from his daddy and couldn't even manage them right. And his frail ego that causes him to lash out whenever it's slightly bruised. Michael Moore, too, was another guy who called that this was going to happen, and was warning leftists not to overlook exactly why Trump is winning these people over, telling the Dems that they can't just be an establishment party. I don't think Chomsky is too academic for regular folks. When you read his stuff, he's actually very anti-elitist and, though he cites facts and evidence impeccably, he does so in very plain language without a lot of jargon. He's very against what he sees as posturing in the academy. He's another guy who saw this coming six years ago. Of course, I don't expect his books to fly off the shelves and for average Americans to read them (most don't even read a book a year, and if they do, it's probably Harry Potter or The Hunger Games or something), but the guy, though being one of the most respected intellectuals of all time, has pretty much been blacklisted by the corporate media. Chris Hedges a guy who I think has a tendency to "speak another language." I like him, but every time I listen to him, he peppers his speech with some theoretical jargon from Marxism or structuralism or some shit and name drops whatever professor coined the term. "It's post-hegemonic inverted totalitarian industrialism, like Dr. Sheldon Wolin spoke about. It's so obvious that it's occurring now." I dunno, I think a lot of what passes as "theory" in the humanities isn't actually "theory" in any sense I recognize, because there isn't a lot of verifiability, predictive power, or rigour. That's why I've never had much use for "theories" in this area. I prefer the Chomsky-esque approach of just telling it like it is and pointing out what governments and corporations are doing and revealing their lies, rather than having some sort of pseudo-scientific theory that's supposed to explain the world. Micahel Moore, I've seen maybe a couple of his films, but lost interest, because even though I agree with his positions, he seems to use dishonesty in order to promote them. In both the films of his that I watched, he played around with the facts a little bit in order to support his points. In terms of messaging, though, he knows what he's doing. He's not like Bill Maher, standing on some stage telling everybody they're stupid. That rallies the people already on your side (like, I love watching that sort of shit), but does nothing for the people who aren't. Moore goes and talks to regular Americans, even those who may disagree with him, and tries to start a dialogue. That's what we need. Last edited by Disco King : 11-10-2016 at 02:03 PM. |
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11-10-2016, 02:06 PM | #115 |
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Useless leftists are those postmodern charlatan hackademics like Slavoj Žižek or Judith Butler who pretend to be radical by being obscuritan and suggesting provocative-sounding things but actually have nothing to say and hardly actually challenge any power structures.
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11-10-2016, 02:21 PM | #116 | |
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Just stop right there. A big part of the problem of Dem poli-thinking is adhering to dividing people into such sub-groups. Uneducated means what exactly? The tone of this meme is insulting on the face of it and ironic. Outside of the hard sciences and other studies which demand merit for advancement of knowledge, the University system is a cesspool of loser marxist types. The soft sciences have ruined colleges and the purpose for them in large part. It's not supposed to be a bunch of frustrated rock star poets who didn't have enough guts or talent to manifest their own feedback loop of followers, so they end up kissing ass in the bureaucratic homes of leftist "intellectual" ideologies where unsuspecting youth are forced to listen to the marxist drivel ad-nauseum. And for what? A soft-degree and mountains of debt and a big ignorant chip on their shoulder? Less educated means less brainwashed with less debt. |
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11-10-2016, 02:24 PM | #117 |
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11-10-2016, 02:25 PM | #118 |
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11-10-2016, 02:26 PM | #119 |
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i don't see how one can compare moore to chomsky
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11-10-2016, 02:26 PM | #120 | |
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