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Old 03-10-2015, 07:57 AM   #181
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care to reiterate? I'm not sure what's confusing you?

 
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Old 03-10-2015, 07:59 AM   #182
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I'm simply stating that I love a great chorus but that it doesn't matter to me if the chorus is really a main focus or if a song even has a "chorus" to begin with.

 
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Old 03-10-2015, 07:59 AM   #183
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Have you listened to the new Gang of 4 album yet man?

 
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Old 03-10-2015, 08:53 AM   #184
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fuzzy needs clichéd anthemic choruses or else he can't cum

 
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Old 03-10-2015, 09:23 AM   #185
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It's not that I don't "like it". I like it for what it is, and when I'm in the mood it really hits the spot... But it's far from some legendary album as far as I'm concerned. It's an important album, but it's certainly not a masterpiece.

I guess what I'm trying to say is; while I like it, I think it's incredibly overrated.

 
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Old 03-10-2015, 09:25 AM   #186
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I really like the vibe of the music, I just wish they would have maybe honed in on it a little bit more and focused more on the songwriting instead of taking a "this is cool enough" approach.

 
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Old 03-10-2015, 09:38 AM   #187
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I really like the vibe of the music, I just wish they would have maybe honed in on it a little bit more and focused more on the songwriting instead of taking a "this is cool enough" approach.
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Old 03-10-2015, 09:42 AM   #188
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what is it with this universal praise for Loveless.

I like it, but always liked Swervedriver, Ride, Slowdive more than MBV. why is that not acceptable, did I miss the memo on "never ever say you don't love MBV"?

 
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Old 03-10-2015, 09:51 AM   #189
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what is it with this universal praise for Loveless.

I like it, but always liked Swervedriver, Ride, Slowdive more than MBV. why is that not acceptable, did I miss the memo on "never ever say you don't love MBV"?
I always feel pretty firmly like MBV stand in a different class to all the other shoegaze bands, probably 80% because of the production style. Loveless just has that ethereal wash to it... the very sound of it, the raw texture, is completely unlike all that has come before or since (give or take a few very specific attempts at replication) - it just feels lik they took the opportunity of wall-of-noise-amp-blowout-as-lead-melody and capitalised on it to as much as is possible with little regard for genre or trend. And to me, that's how you go about creating genuinely genre-pushing stuff within the increasingly limited returns rock music can deliver.

 
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Old 03-10-2015, 09:52 AM   #190
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That's the song though. You can't say "I like the vibe of what you're doing but could you completely change your songwriting approach?" The vibe is that way because of the songwriting. If Loveless had a Matchbox 20 chorus on every track it would destroy the thing that makes it so wonderful.
"Music to airports?! More like music for non-rocking hipster shit that can't write a good hook to save his life!"

 
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Old 03-10-2015, 01:42 PM   #191
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just want to use this opportunity to say this is the best MBV song with Sometimes:




But then i end up wishing that all their songs were that catchy.

 
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Old 03-10-2015, 04:16 PM   #192
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I do love a great chorus and bridge.

It's not a necessity though. Pavements one of my favorite groups and for them it's really all about the verses.
Still makes no sense

Pavement has pretty standard catchy choruses for the most part.

 
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Old 03-10-2015, 04:21 PM   #193
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Seriously what majorly attracts me to MBV is that aside from stuff like Loomer (which is still great) the songs are incredibly catchy pop

The bare bones of the songs are very solid but simple

If "I only said" doesn't have a super earwormy guitar hook then I don't what does

 
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Old 03-10-2015, 07:55 PM   #194
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I like Loveless because hipsters like it

 
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Old 03-10-2015, 08:04 PM   #195
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I don't know about that, i just thought their sound was a lot stronger
at least on loveless, mbv, & the last coupla EPs leading up to loveless

 
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Old 03-10-2015, 08:19 PM   #196
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WHEN I LOOK AT YOU
OH! WELL I DONT KNOW WHATS REAL
ONCE IN A WHILE
YOU MAKE ME LAUGH

 
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Old 03-10-2015, 08:21 PM   #197
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Fuck man, I could go on forever and I'm sure I'd forget people.

From the top of my head:

J.Macis, Adrian Smith/Dave Murray, Alex Lifeson, Joey Santiago, John Frusciante, Eddie Van Halen, Buckethead, Nigel Pulsford, Herman Lee,



the essence of a tasteful solo and a lesson in serving the song...





 
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Old 03-10-2015, 09:49 PM   #198
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monkey piss strives for excellence and NEVER settles for just cool enough

BRAIN ROTTAGE BRAIN ROTTAGE

(you guys know hes st8 trollin trollin trollin)

 
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Old 03-10-2015, 10:27 PM   #199
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His reverse Hipster persona never fails to bait me into responding though.

I AM EVERYTHING YOU ARE NOT

 
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Old 03-10-2015, 11:00 PM   #200
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same here but hes no longer being even slightly genuine, he takes what he feels is one of the boards sacred cows slaps together some generic criticism then its off to the races

 
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Old 03-10-2015, 11:38 PM   #201
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Russell Lissack - he play(ed?) in Bloc Party. The band got really out there and not so good after Silent Alarm, but one constant has been his guitar playing where he's either doing batshit crazy effect stuff or really clean melodic leads. Huge influence on teen me.

Lindsey Buckingham - I saw Fleetwood Mac twice (last month most recently) and he just shut it down both times. Really impressive.

Billy Corgan - He played in the Smashing Pumpkins and did neat rock and roll things.

Kevin Shields - really, who could ever beat that tone?

And I'll throw in Robert Smith. I wonder how many times he's noodling around and goes "oh shit I already used that"

probably

 
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Old 03-11-2015, 12:26 AM   #202
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Songwriting is an important craft when it comes to music.
that's one of your best so far, I love it.

 
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Old 03-11-2015, 12:44 AM   #203
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i love the whole idea that loveless could have been good if it was completely different

thats obvs trollin

its like id like kanye if he didnt rap so much or do that helium soul sample thing

 
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Old 03-11-2015, 12:50 AM   #204
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I like Brendan Small

 
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Old 03-11-2015, 01:20 AM   #205
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The songwriting is actually very good and is part of what makes it so good (and the main part where copycats fall short), fuzzy just thinks it's not good because it repeats more than he is used to.
Repetition can be he best thing ever when used to create a kind of hypnosis

WE DIG, WE DIG-UHHHH

REPETITION!


 
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Old 03-11-2015, 05:54 AM   #206
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His reverse Hipster persona never fails to bait me into responding though.

I AM EVERYTHING YOU ARE NOT
You guys are ridiculous. I simply share my point of view regarding MBV being overrated and the idiot brigade featuring the 2-headed monster of Elph/Trots lash out at me for "trolling". As if its impossible not to be just floored by the muddy noise of MBV.

 
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Old 03-11-2015, 05:57 AM   #207
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i love the whole idea that loveless could have been good if it was completely different

thats obvs trollin

its like id like kanye if he didnt rap so much or do that helium soul sample thing
I just like little elements of surprise in songwriting. You hear the first minute in a MBV song and you've heard it all. Again, I'm not here saying I don't like some of it... But it is what it is.

 
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Old 03-11-2015, 05:58 AM   #208
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i thought i was in the favorite guitar player thread but somehow i ended up in the illegitimate love thread of "fuzzyroes hates us" & "Elphenor's super majestic fall thread"

what an experience, god help me

 
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Old 03-11-2015, 05:59 AM   #209
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but you listen to the most unsurprising generic rock possible what are you talking about

 
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Old 03-11-2015, 06:06 AM   #210
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There's nothing surprising about Verse Chorus Verse

 
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