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Old 12-09-2014, 12:56 PM   #181
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Well "synth" pop is like not a real genre idk

Like 99% of pop uses synthetics.
Let's not overlook this gem

 
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Old 12-09-2014, 12:57 PM   #182
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& they're not gloomy
i figured that was your definition of post-punk

there's ~gloomy~ post-punk and then there's ~dancy~ post punk (a la mission of burma, wire, gang of four, magazine). the strokes are the latter

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Old 12-09-2014, 12:58 PM   #183
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Fucking exactly

 
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Old 12-09-2014, 01:02 PM   #184
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Well "synth" pop is like not a real genre idk

Like 99% of pop uses synthetics.

But bands like Depeche Mode and Soft Cell did it in a Punk way and that's why they're post-punk
what kind of synthetics? that's where you have to draw the line. polyester vs nylon

 
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Old 12-09-2014, 01:07 PM   #185
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Haha

I'm done now. Darby covered it

 
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Old 12-09-2014, 05:39 PM   #186
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Let's not overlook this gem
hahahaha i missed that one

 
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Old 12-09-2014, 05:40 PM   #187
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The Smiths are New Wave

They're like melodic punk and that's what New Wave is

 
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Old 12-09-2014, 05:41 PM   #188
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wire isn't dancy unless all you've ever heard are outdoor miner and map ref

wire is definitely gloomy, conceptual, jagged, experimental

 
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Old 12-09-2014, 05:42 PM   #189
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CHORUS!

 
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Old 12-09-2014, 05:46 PM   #190
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Like music wise no The Smiths are not punk at all, they're jangle pop but Moz is much more punk than the typical jangle pop band

 
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Old 12-09-2014, 05:50 PM   #191
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My point was that "synth pop" is redundant because Pop generally implies the use of synths

But groups like Depeche and Soft Cell were like dance punk with electronics

 
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Old 12-09-2014, 05:55 PM   #192
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If Depeche Mode are post punk then so are Tears for Fears and Culture Club. Post punk isn't accessible and hook filled. Its an offshoot of punk rock. Like exploding boy said its not some all encompassing term for what came after punk rock. It tends to have some punk influences.

 
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Old 12-09-2014, 05:58 PM   #193
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My point was that "synth pop" is redundant because Pop generally implies the use of synths
you skipped like 100 years

 
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Old 12-09-2014, 05:58 PM   #194
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I see Depeche as carrying a lot of Punk influence

 
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Old 12-09-2014, 06:00 PM   #195
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you skipped like 100 years
ahh, I see what you mean

 
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Old 12-09-2014, 06:03 PM   #196
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when are you going to shut up about this

 
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Old 12-09-2014, 06:10 PM   #197
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Depeche Mode have no punk influences at all. Their peers were Tears For Fears, Culture Club and even Duran Duran at times.

 
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Old 12-09-2014, 06:14 PM   #198
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I don't agree with that but I'm not sure I'm going to change your mind.
This is punk with electronics as far as I'm concerned


 
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Old 12-09-2014, 06:33 PM   #199
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wire isn't dancy unless all you've ever heard are outdoor miner and map ref

wire is definitely gloomy, conceptual, jagged, experimental
yeah but they're best known for their dancy stuff. pink flag was pretty influential when it came to the dancy post-punk sound. thank you for the technical input tho

 
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Old 12-09-2014, 06:36 PM   #200
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yeah they wrote killer pop


 
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Old 12-09-2014, 06:36 PM   #201
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elph thinks they are overrated

 
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Old 12-09-2014, 06:37 PM   #202
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that's my fave song off the album, heh

elph is wrong

 
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Old 12-09-2014, 06:38 PM   #203
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mine is ex lion tamer i think, but there's so many good ones

and there's champs and 12XU ofc

 
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Old 12-09-2014, 06:39 PM   #204
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No I love Pink Flag. But they're not my favorite post-punk band even if they were the first

 
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Old 12-09-2014, 06:39 PM   #205
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I really, really like Lowdown

 
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Old 12-09-2014, 07:04 PM   #206
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Closest thing we have to The Beatles

 
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Old 12-10-2014, 01:19 AM   #207
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They are though
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Old 12-10-2014, 01:20 AM   #208
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Depeche Mode are NOT a post punk band. Thread ends now.

 
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Old 12-10-2014, 01:31 AM   #209
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I don't agree with that but I'm not sure I'm going to change your mind.
This is punk with electronics as far as I'm concerned

rofl, i love depeche mode but that is blues rock through and through, if anything

yes with distortion, but wilder & co. were throwing that in as part of the band's new and more aggressive sonic palette

in all honesty, punk was kind of the antithesis to stuff like dm, or maybe the other way around

you're so fulla shit man when's it gonna end WHERE will it eend??

 
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Old 12-10-2014, 01:32 AM   #210
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most bands worth a damn aren't really easily capped by genre locks anyway unless they (see j.d., pil) were major pioneers of the genre and the reason those so-called journalists had to coin the terms

 
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