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Old 12-08-2014, 02:38 PM   #121
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That's simply not true. U2 is post-punk and I hate U2.

Again, if you don't trust my opinion google The Strokes. I can only imagine that you've simply never listened to them.

 
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Old 12-08-2014, 03:46 PM   #122
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Strokes is more garage rock than post punk but i would agree they have some post punkishness about them or at least some songs. I don't hear it in Libertines though.

 
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Old 12-08-2014, 03:50 PM   #123
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In the end, especially nowadays, nobody really knows what to label a lot of bands anymore so basically you should just not be worried that much about it. I mean i don't necessarily take wikipedia or google's opinion on genres to be 100% right.

 
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Old 12-08-2014, 03:55 PM   #124
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Then when I make a list of my favorite post-punk revival groups don't come in here and tell me that they aren't post-punk

 
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Old 12-08-2014, 05:48 PM   #125
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Cool more arbitrary lines in the sand

 
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Old 12-08-2014, 06:57 PM   #126
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I made my tier list and then you people tried to tell me that Libertines and Strokes aren't post-punk and that's really dumb
The strokes aren't post-punk. They're retro-revival

 
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Old 12-08-2014, 07:04 PM   #127
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Old 12-08-2014, 07:08 PM   #128
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i've already explained to him that "retro-revival" is redundant and a very stupid thing to say but he persists in using it

 
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Old 12-08-2014, 07:12 PM   #129
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Revival Revival

 
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Old 12-08-2014, 07:13 PM   #130
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Or is he saying like a revival of the revival of bands like VU

Also known as Post-Punk

 
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Old 12-08-2014, 07:18 PM   #131
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it beats shopping at hollister.

 
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Old 12-08-2014, 07:18 PM   #132
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Old 12-08-2014, 10:37 PM   #133
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There needs to be a full on flamboyant, completely indulgent, B-movie Gothic post-punk revival enough of boring ass shit like Interpol

 
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Old 12-08-2014, 10:39 PM   #134
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That's simply not true. U2 is post-punk and I hate U2.

Again, if you don't trust my opinion google The Strokes. I can only imagine that you've simply never listened to them.
uh, i've had the first three albums since high school

only record i haven't heard is angles, listened to comeback machine once or twice

calling them "post-punk" anything is like calling weezer joy division revivalists

labels don't really matter but clearly there's at least some weight in those names, otherwise this thread wouldn't exist

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Cool more arbitrary lines in the sand
it's not lines in the sand so much as a group of people sittin next to the atlantic ocean and someone tellin you they're by the pacific

 
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Old 12-08-2014, 10:45 PM   #135
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There's seriously no way you can listen to comedown machine and not be like "Holy shit this is so 80's post-punk".

The Strokes know they're post-punk revival and it's on purpose and that's why they named the album "80's Comedown Machine" and all the songs sound like a garage band playing 80's hits

 
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Old 12-09-2014, 01:37 AM   #136
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i'm with Mals Marola on this one

 
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Old 12-09-2014, 03:41 AM   #137
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There's seriously no way you can listen to comedown machine and not be like "Holy shit this is so 80's post-punk".

The Strokes know they're post-punk revival and it's on purpose and that's why they named the album "80's Comedown Machine" and all the songs sound like a garage band playing 80's hits
i listened to comedown machine and thought it sounded more like miami vice music (in a good way) than any post-punk

then again i'm starting to realize post-punk does not simply equate to music you like, just music from the 80s

it is all beginning to make sense!

 
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Old 12-09-2014, 03:44 AM   #138
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Comedown Machine is new wave but not really post punk. It's kind of the sound the Killers were going for at first.

 
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they're just the strokes, anyway

do you really think bands sit down and go "hey let's bring post-punk back!" because if so fuck you (the people in those bands) and fuck yer band

 
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Old 12-09-2014, 04:28 AM   #140
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post-retro-post-post-punk

 
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Old 12-09-2014, 04:28 AM   #141
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that's what my band is trying to play

 
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Old 12-09-2014, 04:28 AM   #142
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we mainly do acoustic nirvana and greenday covers

 
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Old 12-09-2014, 04:29 AM   #143
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Most genre names are coined by journalists, not the artists that pioneer them. At the time they'll usually try to distance themselves from those labels, until some time later when they just give in and accept their legacy.

 
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Old 12-09-2014, 04:29 AM   #144
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we also have one pink! cover but that one is ironic because we're alternative like that

 
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Old 12-09-2014, 05:35 AM   #145
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Most genre names are coined by journalists, not the artists that pioneer them. At the time they'll usually try to distance themselves from those labels, until some time later when they just give in and accept their legacy.
elph desperately needs that label since he's the generation where people are totally awesome with labels and in fact strict adherence to labels is what makes you cool which is the absolute ultimate currency of your entire existance

they're like millennials but even more superficial

 
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Old 12-09-2014, 10:21 AM   #146
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Comedown Machine is new wave but not really post punk. It's kind of the sound the Killers were going for at first.
New Wave IS post-punk

 
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elph desperately needs that label since he's the generation where people are totally awesome with labels and in fact strict adherence to labels is what makes you cool which is the absolute ultimate currency of your entire existance

they're like millennials but even more superficial
It's really as simple as you notice bands coming from the same time, place, and background will tend to share the same influences and thus have similar sounds.

Since it's difficult to describe sound with words, genres are a convenient way of describing things.

I don't NEED the label, but they're certainly useful when talking about music.

 
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Old 12-09-2014, 10:30 AM   #148
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i only need to labels: "sucks" and "best music ever". that covers it for me.

 
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Old 12-09-2014, 10:37 AM   #149
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they're just the strokes, anyway

do you really think bands sit down and go "hey let's bring post-punk back!" because if so fuck you (the people in those bands) and fuck yer band
In their earlier albums no, but they're like me and really love that style of music so they emulated it.

80's comedown machine is totally a conscious effort to be New Wavey

 
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Old 12-09-2014, 10:41 AM   #150
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New Wave IS post-punk
not really. Post punk was a harsher, less commercial/more underground type of sound. New wave, while originally used to pretty much define any music that was new in the early 80's, to an extent when for a while it became pretty much meaningless, is now at least accepted to mean a more commercial and pop sound and probably most likely features some (or a lot of) synths. This is just a kind of more melodic music lot of punk and post punk artists moved towards once they became better musicians hence the link to punk/post punk but i reality you've got artists labeled new wave that have about nothing to do with punk.

 
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