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Old 12-10-2020, 09:43 AM   #1
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Default I put Cyr through Fakespot, and you won't believe what I found

This is pretty funny, Fakespot analyzes Amazon reviews for paid or bot-generated reviews. Cyr has 90 reviews and 4.5 stars so I was wondering if Sad Machines brigaded it. Looks like they did. Fakespot found the reviews to be "suspiciously positive" and gave it a D. They then readjusted its rating to 2 stars, which is pretty much in line with critical reviews.

Sad Machines and bots can hardly be distinguished, they both exhibit a high degree of deception.

https://www.fakespot.com/product/cyr


How are reviewers describing this item?

new, three, best and half.

Our AI detects a high amount of irrelevant reviews for this listing. A number of the reviews included in this product are may belong to other variations, editions or versions that may not be representative of the current product being sold.

Our engine detects that in general the reviewers have a suspiciously positive sentiment.

Our engine has profiled the reviewer patterns and has determined that there is high deception involved.

Our engine has analyzed and discovered that 50.0% of the reviews are reliable.

This product had a total of 90 reviews as of our last analysis date on Dec 10 2020.

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Old 12-10-2020, 10:22 AM   #2
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Fakespot doesn't work

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Old 12-10-2020, 11:01 AM   #3
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Fakespot doesn't work

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I could imagine it probably doesn’t work well for music because of rabid fans.
Especially not for older music. Who would bother to review MCIS on Amazon.

Anyways, I thought it was pretty funny.

 
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Old 12-10-2020, 11:10 AM   #4
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I could imagine it probably doesn’t work well for music because of rabid fans.
Especially not for older music. Who would bother to review MCIS on Amazon.

Anyways, I thought it was pretty funny.
It doesn't work in general. First, people not only review the product itself, but they also review the whole shopping experience (website, customer service, delivery, company etc), so you would need to know exactly what which review is about.

 
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Old 12-10-2020, 11:16 AM   #5
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It doesn't work in general. First, people not only review the product itself, but they also review the whole shopping experience (website, customer service, delivery, company etc), so you would need to know exactly what which review is about.
I use it all the time, it works pretty well. I don’t think you understand how it works. Find some shitty electronics accessories and you will see what I mean.

 
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Old 12-10-2020, 11:16 AM   #6
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And it definitely works for Cyeyr

 
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Old 12-10-2020, 11:27 AM   #7
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Hehe this is amusing. Thanks for undertaking this important research for the community

 
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Old 12-10-2020, 11:40 AM   #8
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I use it all the time, it works pretty well. I don’t think you understand how it works. Find some shitty electronics accessories and you will see what I mean.
I'm a social media manager. Over 10 year experience. Fakespot is not accurate or reliable.

 
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Old 12-10-2020, 11:47 AM   #9
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ReviewMedia is much better. I put Cyr through it:

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Old 12-10-2020, 12:40 PM   #10
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I could imagine it probably doesn’t work well for music because of rabid fans.
Especially not for older music. Who would bother to review MCIS on Amazon.

Anyways, I thought it was pretty funny.
About 15 years ago, I used to browse new music on Amazon due to the rating system, and it was pretty reliable. Now I can't buy anything on there that doesn't break in a year despite having 5 stars

 
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Old 12-10-2020, 12:54 PM   #11
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I'm a social media manager. Over 10 year experience. Fakespot is not accurate or reliable.

 
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Old 12-10-2020, 01:26 PM   #12
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More like



But you got the idea

 
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Old 12-10-2020, 01:51 PM   #13
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If that’s weed in the tupperware i have two questions

1) how the fuck did u get my picture
2) will u please not tell my employer this is what remote work looks like at this particular point in the end of times

 
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Old 12-10-2020, 01:54 PM   #14
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best Alternative Nation article in years

 
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Old 12-10-2020, 02:45 PM   #15
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On Rate Your Music, Cyr has over 500 ratings, only one of which is for 4.5 stars

https://rateyourmusic.com/release/al...-pumpkins/cyr/

 
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Old 12-10-2020, 04:47 PM   #16
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that's pretty gross it has 2.38 considering how many releases i love that are around that same range and considering how critical they are

 
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Old 12-10-2020, 06:18 PM   #17
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Metacritic or AOTY are more accurate I think. Metacritic has left out a few particularly scathing reviews though

https://www.metacritic.com/music/cyr...shing-pumpkins

 
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Old 12-11-2020, 04:49 AM   #18
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I dont need sadmachinefucks or any other plattform.

We know it is a 2 star album, right?

 
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Old 12-11-2020, 05:44 AM   #19
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2 is generous

 
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Old 12-11-2020, 06:11 AM   #20
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I dont need sadmachinefucks or any other plattform.

We know it is a 2 star album, right?
I thought you liked the album

 
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Old 12-11-2020, 10:23 AM   #21
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I thought you liked the album
People can like 2 star albums

It’s a big friekin wolrd out there, after all

 
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Old 12-11-2020, 12:25 PM   #22
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"I like all the songs, they are fresh and very enjoyable. I never thought Billy would be able to make an album like that again. Congrats, 2 stars"

 
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Old 12-11-2020, 02:05 PM   #23
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I'll have to listen to the album to review it.

So far it gets a 'I turned it off after skipping through 10 seconds of 5 different songs"

 
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Old 12-12-2020, 08:56 AM   #24
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The reviews are bound to be skewed positively because those who didn't buy Cyr because they didn't dig the prelistens on youtube are not goonna write a review. So the vast majority of reviewers are bound to write positive reviews. It would have been different before youtube and other platforms. People had very few possibilities to prelisten to an album. So they bought it only to realise it sucked and proceeded to write a negative review. This doesn't happen very often anymore. Only BC cultists post reviews these days.

 
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