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Old 06-16-2018, 02:38 AM   #91
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THIS TIME was the perfect farewell for the Smashing Pumpkins.

You know, I like this song a lot, but the production and that repeating arpeggio really makes it sound like something that’d be at the end of a Dawson’s Creek episode

 
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Old 06-16-2018, 02:55 AM   #92
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Old 06-16-2018, 01:11 PM   #93
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Dorian was excellent, still bump that shit in my ride sometimes
I really enjoyed Dorian as well. I don't know if it's the best last song but it's probably in my top 10 of post Machina stuff.

 
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Old 06-16-2018, 01:31 PM   #94
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Tom Tom

If Billy had an ounce of artistic integrity he would’ve done more like this

 
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Old 06-16-2018, 01:34 PM   #95
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I am frequently baffled why this song isn’t popular.

 
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Old 06-16-2018, 02:18 PM   #96
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You know, I like this song a lot, but the production and that repeating arpeggio really makes it sound like something that’d be at the end of a Dawson’s Creek episode
Billy later played the song solo on tour:


 
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Old 06-16-2018, 03:21 PM   #97
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Tom Tom was probably the best song from Teargarden.

 
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Old 06-16-2018, 03:30 PM   #98
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Tom Tom is heads and shoulders above all that other crygarden kaleidoshits

 
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Old 06-16-2018, 03:32 PM   #99
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Heads, shoulders, nips, bellybutton, waists, even beavescrotes above that other horsehockey

 
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Old 06-16-2018, 06:46 PM   #100
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And yet it's still an awful song. Really makes you think.

 
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Old 06-16-2018, 08:00 PM   #101
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This Time or Home.

Lots of abhorrent mentions in this thread.

 
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Old 06-16-2018, 08:24 PM   #102
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Gossamer.

Gossamer.

Gossamer.

By far the greatest SP song never recorded or never released publicly. Gossamer is a GREAT song. I don't listen to it everyday.. but each time I go back and listen to it.. especially the Rock AM Ring version.. I'm like holy shit.. it's sort of like the only Porcellina-esque, e.g: long-winding epic song from the Pumpkins that has been GREAT since MCIS.. and yes the songs "Oceania" and "United States" are simply not good in comparison to Gossamer.. lyrics, song structure, emotion.. Gossamer hands down.

If Billy were smart he would have recorded an awesome version of Gossamer for this Solara EP.. but he's not smart.. so oh well.. too bad for people who still give 2 fucks

 
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Old 06-16-2018, 08:58 PM   #103
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Yeah Gossamer was great. Though it was def better early on in the tour (like the first Grand Rex show) than the 35 minute jam it became at the Fillmore. And def not he version played with Mike Burns in backstage hallways on the Oceania tour

 
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Old 06-16-2018, 09:37 PM   #104
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And yet it's still an awful song. Really makes you think.
Pretty sure we just said it wasn’t awful. It’s a good song.

 
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Old 06-17-2018, 12:19 AM   #105
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And yet it's still an awful song. Really makes you think.
The lyrics were good, vocals good, and it had a different sound than we’ve heard before. Like a hippie melancholy Zwan.

 
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Old 06-17-2018, 12:24 AM   #106
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Since 2007, I only really like Violet Rays

 
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Old 06-17-2018, 12:51 AM   #107
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If we're talking about anything by Billy, I think it would be Desire.

 
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Old 06-17-2018, 02:25 AM   #108
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This Time or Home.

Lots of abhorrent mentions in this thread.
HOME IS SO FUCCIN GOOD

 
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Old 06-17-2018, 03:00 AM   #109
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last great SP song? hands down this one -



last great billy song? tons from zwan to choose from but this one stands out too-




i also think this one might be a good contender for more recent SP, but as many other good tracks we never got a studio version of this one.. there are several good live versions out there though, check out the guitar solo @ 5:05 - very nice billy shredding


 
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Old 06-17-2018, 04:35 AM   #110
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If I'm honest, I don't think there's a single SP song post the initial break up that had that magic to it. There have been promising attempts (the first time Billy played Tom tom and Make it happen with Backwards Clock Society etc), but yeah, it is what it is. Something got broken beyond repair with Billy when the band imploded. We can pretend that it didn't, but it did.

Machina II is full of that said magic, still. A song like "Vanity" that no one ever talks about even here is so beautiful. That's some master-level songwriting right there:


 
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Old 06-17-2018, 04:40 AM   #111
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Omg do i ever love vanity

That’s a bit of chorus and slight phase on that thick wall of slab of busted up concrete guitar riff isn’t there? God i love the vibe of that recording

 
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Old 06-17-2018, 07:02 AM   #112
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Burnt Orange Black is wildly over rated. Has a good name, that's it.

 
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Old 06-18-2018, 11:34 PM   #113
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Slow Dawn probably. There's a lot of great stuff on M2, mind you. But Slow Dawn has something that just makes everything work. Might be the verses.

SP from 2007-now, no idea. There are a few pretty good songs, but nothing great that I can recall. I do like Neverlost a lot, severely underrated imo

 
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Old 06-19-2018, 12:02 AM   #114
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listening to Burnt Orange Black for the first time now, it's a really good song. would be ruined in the studio

 
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Old 06-19-2018, 06:31 AM   #115
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Best last song was TOM TOM

 
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Old 06-19-2018, 09:28 AM   #116
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmYLaYwH0Tg

Peace + Love was almost a great song. This lad did his best to take it to the next level.

Honourable shout out for 99 Floors.

This live version of Song for A Son would belong on a best of live album for me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfTe2jq-qHw

There was a very good acoustic album that could have been made from the post zeitgeist -residency material. Unfortunately, our Billy made sure that didn't happen. Probably wasn't 'commercially viable'.

 
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Old 06-19-2018, 10:00 AM   #117
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Can't be anything except for Stellar

 
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Old 07-10-2018, 12:48 AM   #118
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Hmmm... I'd go with:

Stellar
Sunkissed
Quasar
Inkless


I remember Quasar getting a lot of hate back in the day but it always sounded killer to me. The guitar parts all sound amazing and Billy's vocals sound the best they have since the Machina era. I also think the chorus is just fucking rad. I love listening to that song when I'm out for a run or doing pullups.

 
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Old 07-10-2018, 04:46 AM   #119
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Tell us more about your workout regime.

 
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