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Old 04-30-2018, 10:39 PM   #1
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Default Jack "white" Bates

who is this guy?
has he played in any bands that I know?

is he any good?
what should I expect from him out on tour.
has billy toured with him before?

 
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Old 04-30-2018, 10:45 PM   #2
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He's some young guy who played with the band on the Manson tour. He kinda sucks. He just stands there.. Doesn't really have a stage presence. Very much like Jeff

He's the guy from Joy Divisions son, so that's kind of how he got the in. Apparently he's toured with his dad when he does his solo thing.


 
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Old 04-30-2018, 11:19 PM   #3
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I heard his butler calls him Master

 
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Old 04-30-2018, 11:46 PM   #4
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Jack waves a “Hello!”:





Jack, the 100% nuts risk:




Thru the eyes of Jackass Bates:




Thru the eyes of D'arcy:


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Old 05-01-2018, 12:46 AM   #5
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The Butler comment is misses the mark, it’s fair to say that New Order all have comfortable lives now but it wasn’t until more recently. Everything from the 80s was ploughed into the Hacienda & Factory. Having said that if he wasn’t Hookys son, would he be stood there? No he wouldn’t.

 
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Old 05-01-2018, 12:57 AM   #6
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Haven't you heard of Google either?

 
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Old 05-01-2018, 01:27 AM   #7
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Jackbass has his own website!
https://jackbass.info

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The son of legendary Joy Division and New Order bass pioneer Peter Hook, Jack began playing bass himself at the age of 12.

As well as always holding a desire to follow in his father's footsteps and become a musician, Jack was a diligent and keen student academically, excelling in modern foreign languages. Jack holds qualifications in French, Spanish and Italian, as well as having also studied Portuguese and Catalan.

Music was always Jack's main passion, and he played in various bands with his friends during his teenage years. In 2010, at the age of 20, Jack was asked by his father to join him on stage for a concert - it was then that Peter Hook & The Light was born. Despite initially only planning to play 1 show in Manchester to celebrate the 30th anniversary of Joy Division's 'Unknown Pleasures' album, one sold out night quickly became two, and the band have been touring across the globe ever since.

To date, Jack has played over 450 live shows all around the world with Peter Hook & The Light - from Brazil to Mongolia, Australia to Japan, and everywhere else inbetween! Jack is currently performing as part of the group's 'Substance' world tour which finds The Light performing both 'Substance' albums by Joy Division and New Order live and in full. The band have gained a reputation for high energy, 3 hour shows - please check out the press section for detailed reviews.

As well as performing with Peter Hook & The Light, Jack is also responsible for the maintenance and upkeep of all the band's websites and social media. He also arranges and oversees the production and sales of all merchandise

While playing with The Light, Jack has also shared the stage with many other established musicians who have appeared as guests at their live shows such as Billy Corgan, Perry Farrell, Mark Lanegan, Moby, Tim Burgess & Tim Booth.

Jack lives primarily in Manchester, UK but spends a lot of time in the US, particularly Los Angeles.


Amazing! He's so talented, he doesn't need much time for rehearsals. His actual tour dates NOT with the Smashing Pumpkins:

Upcoming Tour Dates
2018 North American tour dates are on sale now!



2018



APRIL



23 - Old Fire Station, Carlisle, UK.

Tickets: https://tickets.gigsnortheast.co.uk/...04-23-19-00-00



24 - Trades Club, Hebden Bridge, UK.

Tickets: SOLD OUT



26 - Union Transfer​, Philadelphia, PA.

Tickets: https://www.ticketfly.com/purchase/e...utm_medium=bks



27 - Brooklyn Steel​, Brooklyn, NY.

Tickets: https://www.axs.com/events/339091/pe...=brooklynsteel



28 - Paradise Rock Club​, Boston, MA.

Tickets: SOLD OUT



30 - Théâtre Fairmount​, Montreal, QC.

Tickets: SOLD OUT



MAY



1 - The Danforth Music Hall​, Toronto, ON.

Tickets: SOLD OUT



3 - Royal Oak Music Theatre​, Royal Oak, MI.

Tickets: https://www.axs.com/events/336275/pe...-light-tickets



4 - Metro, Chicago​, IL.

Tickets: SOLD OUT



5 - Majestic Theatre, Madison, WI.

Tickets: https://www.etix.com/ticket/p/659643...058.1513724038



7 - First Avenue & 7th St Entry​, Minneapolis, MN.

Tickets: http://event.etix.com/ticket/online/...d=first-avenue



8 - VENUE​, Vancouver, BC.

Tickets: http://bplive.electrostub.com/event.cfm?id=185253&cart



10 - Neptune Theatre​, Seattle, WA.

Tickets: https://www1.ticketmaster.com/event/...neptuneseattle



11 - Wonder Ballroom​, Portland, OR.

Tickets: SOLD OUT



12 - The Warfield​, San Francisco, CA.

Tickets: https://www.axs.com/artists/111995/p...-light-tickets



14 - Brooklyn Bowl Las Vegas​, NV.

Tickets: https://www.ticketfly.com/purchase/event/1524470



15 - Metro Music Hall​, Salt Lake City, UT.

Tickets: https://www.ticketfly.com/purchase/event/1524098



17 - The Van Buren​, Phoenix, AZ.

Tickets: http://www.ticketweb.com/t3/sale/Sal...dSelectionData



18 - The Wiltern​, Los Angeles, CA. (Exclusive 'Unknown Pleasures' and 'Closer' show.)

Tickets: https://concerts1.livenation.com/event/090052EDE1B8D3E5



19 - House of Blues San Diego​, CA.

Tickets: https://concerts1.livenation.com/event/0A0052EF07634069



21 - Ace Of Spades​, Sacramento, CA.

Tickets: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/peter-h...ts-36211834572



22 - Granada Theater​, Dallas, TX.

Tickets: https://marginwalkerdallas.queueapp.com/events/30264



23 - Mohawk Austin​, TX.

Tickets: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/peter-h...ts-34380246242



25 - Cat's Cradle​, Carrboro, NC.

Tickets: https://www.etix.com/ticket/p/402789...ro-cats-cradle



26 - The Mill & Mine​, Knoxville, TN.

Tickets: http://m.ticketweb.com/t3/sale/SaleE...aign=peterhook



27 - Variety Playhouse​, Atlanta, GA.

Tickets: https://www.ticketfly.com/purchase/e...utm_medium=bks



29 - Exit/In​, Nashville, TN.

Tickets: https://www.ticketfly.com/purchase/event/1524905



30 - Paper Tiger​, San Antonio, TX.

Tickets: https://marginwalkersanantonio.queue...m/events/32957



31 - Warehouse Live​, Houston, TX.

Tickets: https://www.ticketfly.com/purchase/event/1524394



JUNE



2 - Respectable Street​, West Palm Beach, FL.

Tickets: FREE



3 - The Plaza Live​, Orlando, FL.

Tickets: https://www.ticketfly.com/purchase/event/1525419



4 - State Theatre Saint Petersburg​, FL.

Tickets: https://www.ticketfly.com/purchase/e...utm_medium=bks



8 - Keswick Mountain Festival, Cumbria, UK.

Tickets: http://www.keswickmountainfestival.co.uk/



13 - Casino de la Exposición, Seville, Spain.

Tickets: https://www.ticketea.com/organizers/nocturama2018/



15 - FAB Festival, Middlewich, UK.

Tickets: http://www.fabfestival.co.uk



22 - Skyline Series, Bristol, UK.

Tickets: https://www.gigantic.com/skyline-ser...18-06-22-18-00



24 - Dalkeith Country Park, Edinburgh, UK.

Tickets: http://www.scotland.sundaysessions.net/



JULY



21 - Rewind Festival, Perth, Scotland.

Tickets: http://www.rewindfestival.com



22 - Blackthorn Festival, Etherow, UK.

Tickets: https://www.blackthornmusicfestival.co.uk/



29 - Kendal Calling Festival, Kendal, UK.

Tickets: https://www.kendalcalling.co.uk/



AUGUST



4 - Rebellion Festival, Blackpool, UK.

Tickets: http://www.rebellionfestivals.com/tickets



10 - Lakefest, Herefordshire, UK.

Tickets: https://lakefest.co.uk/



11 - Kubix Festival, Sunderland, UK.

Tickets: http://www.kubixfestival.co.uk



12 - Party at the Palace, Linlithgow, Scotland.

Tickets: http://www.partyatthepalace.co.uk/



23 - InFest, Bradford, UK.

Tickets: https://infestuk.com/



24 - Zebedee's Yard, Hull, UK.

Tickets: https://www.hullboxoffice.com/events/happy-mondays



25 - The Big Feastival, Cotswolds, UK.

Tickets: https://thebigfeastival.com/



SEPTEMBER



1 - Cool Britannia Festival, Knebworth, UK.

Tickets: https://www.coolbritanniafest.com/



8 - NCN Festival, Leipzig, Germany.

Tickets: http://www.nocturnal-culture-night.de/




28 - KOKO, London, UK.

Tickets: https://www.alttickets.com/peter-hoo...-light-tickets



29 - Albert Hall, Manchester, UK.

Tickets: SOLD OUT



30 - O2 ABC, Glasgow, UK.

Tickets: https://www.seetickets.com/event/pet...lasgow/1199681



OCTOBER



4 - Cafe Iguana, Monterrey, Mexico.

Tickets: https://peterhook.boletia.com/



5 - Pabellon Cuervo, Mexico City, Mexico.

Tickets: https://m.ticketmaster.com.mx/event/1400543A8B0B1A27



6 - C3 Stage, Guadalajara, Mexico.

Tickets: https://eventos.ticketnowmexico.com/...kets.asp?p=268

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Old 05-01-2018, 05:39 AM   #8
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he plays like a girl

 
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Old 05-01-2018, 05:51 AM   #9
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lol @ thread title

 
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Old 05-01-2018, 05:54 AM   #10
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Billy's Yes Man.

 
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Old 05-01-2018, 05:57 AM   #11
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Get dat merch!!!




 
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Old 05-01-2018, 09:09 AM   #12
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He's some young guy who played with the band on the Manson tour. He kinda sucks. He just stands there.. Doesn't really have a stage presence. Very much like Jeff

He's the guy from Joy Divisions son, so that's kind of how he got the in. Apparently he's toured with his dad when he does his solo thing.

Did he play a six-string bass with Smashing Pumpkins? He plays a four string bass in every video I have seen, but I didn't know if he used a six-string on certain songs.

 
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Old 05-01-2018, 12:08 PM   #13
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Having said that if he wasn’t Hookys son, would he be stood there? No he wouldn’t.
I think it appeals to Billy's ego to have Peter Hook's son in *his* band.

 
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Old 05-01-2018, 01:32 PM   #14
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I think it appeals to Billy's ego to have Peter Hook's son in *his* band.
This. If you watch that video posted above (from 2015), Corgan says something like, "so isn't this better than playing in The Lights?"

 
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Old 05-02-2018, 03:34 AM   #15
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THIS IS weird:
There are several tour dates for 2018, Jack Bates posted on his website, that are in conflict with the ones of the Smashing Pumpkins.

Is he still the tour bass player for the Smashing Pumpkins?
Are these withdrawn tour dates, but not deleted on his website?


His Twitter and Instagram accounts are private now. Any other sources to get a clue?

Well, you can contact him for an answer:
https://jackbass.info


12. JULI
GILA RIVER ARENA
GLENDALE, AZ

14. JULI
CHESAPEAKE ENERGY ARENA
OKLAHOMA CITY, OK

16. JULI
FRANK ERWIN CENTER
AUSTIN, TX

17. JULI
TOYOTA CENTER
HOUSTON, TX

18. JULI
AMERICAN AIRLINES CENTER
DALLAS, TX

20. JULI
BRIDGESTONE ARENA
NASHVILLE, TN

21. JULI
KFC YUM! CENTER
LOUISVILLE, KY

21 - Rewind Festival, Perth, Scotland.


22. JULI
INFINITE ENERGY ARENA
ATLANTA, GA

22 - Blackthorn Festival, Etherow, UK.


24. JULI
AMERICANAIRLINES ARENA
MIAMI, FL

25. JULI
AMALIE ARENA
TAMPA, FL

27. JULI
ROYAL FARMS ARENA
BALTIMORE, MD

28. JULI
WELLS FARGO CENTER
PHILADELPHIA, PA

29. JULI
MOHEGAN SUN ARENA
UNCASVILLE, CT

29 - Kendal Calling Festival, Kendal, UK.


31. JULI
TD GARDEN
BOSTON, MA

01. AUG.
MADISON SQUARE GARDEN
NEW YORK, NY

04. AUG.
PPG PAINTS ARENA
PITTSBURGH, PA

4 - Rebellion Festival, Blackpool, UK.


05. AUG.
LITTLE CAESARS ARENA
DETROIT, MI

07. AUG.
CENTRE BELL
MONTRÉAL, CANADA

08. AUG.
AIR CANADA CENTRE
TORONTO, CANADA

10 - Lakefest, Herefordshire, UK.


11. AUG.
SCHOTTENSTEIN CENTER
COLUMBUS, OH

11 - Kubix Festival, Sunderland, UK.

12 - Party at the Palace, Linlithgow, Scotland.



13. AUG.
UNITED CENTER
CHICAGO, IL

14. AUG.
UNITED CENTER
CHICAGO, IL

16. AUG.
SPRINT CENTER
KANSAS CITY, MO

17. AUG.
BANKERS LIFE FIELDHOUSE
INDIANAPOLIS, IN

19. AUG.
XCEL ENERGY CENTER
ST PAUL, MN

20. AUG.
CENTURYLINK CENTER
OMAHA, NE

21. AUG.
DENNY SANFORD PREMIER CENTER
SIOUX FALLS, SD

23 - InFest, Bradford, UK.


24. AUG.
KEYARENA
SEATTLE, WA

24 - Zebedee's Yard, Hull, UK.


25. AUG.
MODA CENTER
PORTLAND, OR

25 - The Big Feastival, Cotswolds, UK.


27. AUG.
ORACLE ARENA
OAKLAND, CA

28. AUG.
GOLDEN 1 CENTER
SACRAMENTO, CA

30. AUG.
THE FORUM
INGLEWOOD, CA

31. AUG.
THE FORUM
INGLEWOOD, CA

01. SEP.
VIEJAS ARENA
SAN DIEGO, CA

1 - Cool Britannia Festival, Knebworth, UK.


02. SEP.
T-MOBILE ARENA
LAS VEGAS, NV

04. SEP.
VIVINT SMART HOME ARENA
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

05. SEP.
PEPSI CENTER
DENVER, CO

07. SEP.
FORD IDAHO CENTER
NAMPA, ID

8 - NCN Festival, Leipzig, Germany.

 
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That's some real detective work!

 
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Old 05-02-2018, 04:13 PM   #17
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2018/04/13, the last time Jack Bates was mentioned with The Smashing Pumpkins by Billy Corgan.
Since than he posted no bandmember hashtags...




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jackbass? MOAR LIKE JACKASS LOLOLOL

 
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As much as it's probably because his dad needed him to back him up, how fucking amazing would it be if Jack also walked because he didn't want to be "the D'Arcy replacement" and the shitstorm was too much?

 
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I'D LIKE TO BACK UP YOUR DAD


LOL TOOK

 
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(Gotcher back man)

 
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Old 05-02-2018, 05:39 PM   #22
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i'm so happy i'm sobbing

 
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Old 05-03-2018, 04:16 PM   #23
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Still waiting for an answer from Jack Ratbass Bates...

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YES, I've really send bass-killer Bates a message, asking about his tour dates with "The Light" at the same time he should play with the Smashing Pumpkins.

But still got no answer yet...

If someone else wants to drop him a line: https://jackbass.info

 
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Old 05-04-2018, 03:21 AM   #25
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Don't know why you bothered asking him. Billy doesn't allow The Help to speak for themselves, c'mon you know this.

 
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Should've been like, "I can't wait to see you in Hull on August 25th!! I've asked for the day off and everything!!"

 
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Yes, ask him for a Light date!

Maybe that makes him more comfortable to speak out...

 
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Still no answer from Jackal Bates about the tour dates in Europe during the Pumpkins tour.

And Billy Corgan doesn't post any bandmates hashtags since April 13th on Smashing Pumpkins news:



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Still no answer from Jackal Bates about the tour dates in Europe during the Pumpkins tour.

And Billy Corgan doesn't post any bandmates hashtags since April 13th on Smashing Pumpkins news:

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I had tickets for the lights on april 30th. Went to Raw instead.

 
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