Can we talk about how fucked up Machina-era Billy was onstage

[amoergosum]

Heavy as fuck >>>

[KissesandNoise]

This is fucking awesome:



Definitely some bad vibes spilling over from Adore - anger at fans, the music scene, the industry and made him bitter at moments, but I feel it fed the performances I saw. They were super tight and the music was furious.

[amoergosum]

[BurtSampson]

Go to 1:58:05, Really weird vibe with Billy and James here. James is trying to talk on the phone on stage for some reason, Billy admonishes him, James gives him a go fuck yourself look, then Bill says something about “you couldn’t afford a gate?” Super weird.

[themadcaplaughs]

Originally Posted by BurtSampson

Go to 1:58:05, Really weird vibe with Billy and James here. James is trying to talk on the phone on stage for some reason, Billy admonishes him, James gives him a go fuck yourself look, then Bill says something about “you couldn’t afford a gate?” Super weird.

One of the oddest moments in Smashing Pumpkins history, and a rare look at just how frazzled their relationship as band mates was at that point.

For context, James complained through that whole show about feeling sick from eating bad lobster. He talks about it between songs. At the beginning of the time you marked, Billy mentions that James threw up backstage. My guess is James wanted to skip the encore and get back to his room, but Billy pushed for an encore.

[myosis]

that will teach him for ordering the lobster

[fluxequalsrad]

can we talk about how much of a butt rocker "We Love You" is.

[FoolofaTook]

ur dad is a butt rocker

lol

[Shadaloo]

(Rock the butt) don't rock the butt baby
(Rock the butt) don't tip the butt over

[themadcaplaughs]

Originally Posted by myosis

that will teach him for ordering the lobster

Billy has it out for people who order lobster. It was one of the things he mentioned regarding why Zwan broke up.

"...it was like, 'What do you mean the guitar's out of tune? What do you mean I have to be there at 11? What do you mean I can't order $100 of lobster every day?' I mean, like, bad. But it was too late. It was already public. The album was going out. So I did what I always did: try to make the best of a situation and start covering up. Put on a good face. And honestly, I'm glad the thing didn't sell, because if it had sold well it would have been really tough. I would look like I was going to walk away from something that I'd just built.

[myosis]

thanks for getting the reference

[BurtSampson]

We Love You is just one of many cringeworthy improvs from the Machina tour, but yeah it’s prob the worst. Except Rock On, that might be worse

[Zer0 Hour]

I kinda like the parts of Rock on when Billy isn't singing.