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Old 07-06-2018, 05:48 PM   #31
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Billy could easily get Jimmy to play in a way that gives the song more breathing room.. i mean listen to half of machina, for example.

 
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Old 07-06-2018, 07:02 PM   #32
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I like Jimmy's part individually, and it certainly has more "kick" in the live performances we've seen. That being said, I actually understand now why Billy went with Tommy Lee for Monuments to an Elegy (from which this song originated). At the time, I wrote it off entirely to Billy wanting the press that would come with the oddity of Tommy Lee playing on a Smashing Pumpkins album, but having heard Jimmy play on a Monuments-era song, I can see what Billy wanted with Tommy. His more simplistic playing carried the album, but gave the songs "breathing room." Also, Howard's production was much better than Rick Rubin's.
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I really enjoyed hearing Jimmy play Tommy Lee's parts live though. Nice combo of a solid drum part but with JC flourishes. Kinda like how he sounded on Today or Cherub Rock

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Billy could easily get Jimmy to play in a way that gives the song more breathing room.. i mean listen to half of machina, for example.
I always felt it was Jimmy's choice when he wanted to play simply...I remember lots of interviews talking about him being proud of restraining himself
Maybe Jimmy's going through a bit of the same thing Billy is, where he's used to not really getting any criticism

 
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Old 07-07-2018, 02:15 AM   #33
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his drumming on one and all from that last tour was what was missing with that song, imo. he played fantastically on that.

I dunno. I don;t think he over plays or misses the mark on this song, at all. he makes the song, as has been the case for the past how ever many years.

 
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Tommy Lee was great on Monuments. That album still stands up imo.

 
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but having heard Jimmy play on a Monuments-era song
Wait. There was a Monuments era?


 
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