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04-27-2012, 06:31 AM | #31 |
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:Popcorn:
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04-27-2012, 06:31 AM | #32 |
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what kind of a sick joke is this
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04-27-2012, 06:32 AM | #33 |
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:APOPCORN:
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04-27-2012, 06:33 AM | #34 |
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04-27-2012, 08:36 AM | #35 |
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04-27-2012, 08:55 AM | #36 |
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He talks shit yet doesn't like it when he's challenged about his opinions. I don't think re-releasing the back catalogue is a sellout move yet I thought it was nice to see a journalist try to broach the topic of selling-out and Billy's own hypocrisies. Although the journalist should have picked a better example to call him on it.
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04-27-2012, 09:32 AM | #37 |
Shut the fuck up!
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04-27-2012, 10:40 AM | #38 |
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God I wish.
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04-27-2012, 11:15 AM | #39 |
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Billy's still defending Zeitgeist though. ah, so he isn't 100% happy with it, not because the album kind of sucks ass, more because of the unasked-for expectation that we (the fans) put on it not being SD 2. however in this case Billy + Jimmy in a room is clearly not > 99% of music anymore. that kind of arrogant attitude is how we ended up with a bust like Zeitgeist. apparently, no-one except Billy can judge whether it was successful or not! and the album was apparently a sparse, metallic record, dark and lean: i'd like to hear him describe how this applies to most of it. Pomp, God + Country etc? it is slathered in production gimmickry. can one interviewer actually ask him, before i die, what the fuck is up with the horrible vocals? the studio engineer who posted on here before the album hit the stores called it right: good music, god-awful vocals. how can Billy not see this - with 5 years distance to add perspective?
worrying (for Oceania) that he's listening to GLOW and comparing it to MCIS and Machina. big surprise: it is on the list of potential live songs for the new tour. play Here is No Why, it is at least a billion times better than fucking GLOW, which pretty much no-one attending a show wants to hear. but of course Corgan doesn't want to be confined by fan expectations, so of course he won't play a great song that hasn't been heard live since '96 and will instead play a routine staple of recent tours. sigh. |
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04-27-2012, 11:43 AM | #40 |
Shut the fuck up!
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It's not his art. It's the audience.
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04-27-2012, 12:07 PM | #41 | |
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i'd like to hear a 'less-produced' mix of it. way less effects or at least different effects on the vocals. but what really matters is getting a digital master [of the remaining machina 2 songs] from the master tape, and not from a fucking test record or whatever it was he pressed. while it didn't seem to help slow dawn all that much, i thought lucky 13 and real love sounded pretty good [rotten apples/judas 0] |
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04-27-2012, 02:05 PM | #42 |
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there are no good riffs on it or anything with much musical power, i think he tried to hide it behind all the fuzziness or whatever it is that sounds so terrible.
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04-27-2012, 02:05 PM | #43 |
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the guy wrote the songs in two weeks ffs. what can u expect
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04-27-2012, 02:14 PM | #44 |
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i like the idea of having the machina album presented in the 2LP format it was suppose to come out. sadly i also feel this is so much DIE HARD fans thing that it will get smashed by press/non-fans either way and billy will moan and moan.
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04-27-2012, 02:21 PM | #45 |
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Yeah, it really is going to be a diehard fan product. I just hope it actually comes to fruition... it was easily the coolest concept from the big "remasters are coming!" announcement a year or so ago.
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04-27-2012, 02:49 PM | #46 | |
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08-23-2012, 07:11 AM | #47 |
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...such a beautiful song.
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08-23-2012, 07:26 AM | #48 |
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Home is one of my favourite SP songs ever.
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08-23-2012, 06:00 PM | #49 |
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08-23-2012, 06:41 PM | #50 |
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Never heard of that band, what're they like?
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08-23-2012, 06:43 PM | #51 |
Just Hook it to My Veins!
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they're basically a rip off of the last five songs on mcis
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08-23-2012, 10:17 PM | #52 |
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I like Machina I & II a lot, but imagine how much better these records would have sounded with Butch Vig or someone else producing. Flood was clearly not the best as producing a rock band with heavy guitars and a monster drummer.
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08-23-2012, 10:27 PM | #53 |
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he did a shit job with the guitars but I thought Jimmy sounded pretty badass on most of Machina . Drums in TEG rip hard no matter which way you cut it.
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08-23-2012, 10:41 PM | #54 |
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08-23-2012, 11:30 PM | #55 |
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You're talking about Fleet Foxes?
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08-24-2012, 12:06 AM | #56 |
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Yep, Billy was definitely ripping off Fleet Foxes in 2000
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08-24-2012, 01:01 AM | #57 |
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08-24-2012, 03:58 PM | #58 |
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* Carbuncle
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08-24-2012, 04:13 PM | #59 |
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yeah, flood's talent is mixing guitars and synths/programming (NIN, mute records, curve). most of his pure guitar records sound about as muffled as MCIS/machina (to bring you my love, nick cave, songs of faith and devotion). not a bad thing necessarily, but not his strongest efforts on the decks.
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08-25-2012, 01:15 AM | #60 |
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