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Old 01-07-2015, 11:35 PM   #361
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no matter what happens with this reissue we will all pick it apart and bitch like everything else, so in my opinion the only way BC could satisfy everyone with this is to ******* the metro show.. it literally just makes no sense to put it out in any other capacity..it would fit well along side the album and extra material from that era without a doubt.. there are too many other pro-shot concerts on youtube from the 2000's for them to just polish up a copy of 'budokan' or some shit and release that..

oh and also, instead of giving us one fuckin' show on a DVD like the latest reissues, why not give us the metro show AND a couple of bonus videos of particular songs from the arising! tour as well? like this for example from the pisces DVD..

That's a really good point. We're gonna be pissed if it's not Arising or Metro.

I was already annoyed that MCIS didn't have the full Brixton show. Maybe that'll come out in 20 years, like that Nirvana show

 
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Old 01-07-2015, 11:37 PM   #362
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Taking bets right now: how many versions of Heavy Metal Machine will we get? How many Glass and the Ghost Children? BC still loves BOTH of those beasts that hog setlists and slog up otherwise nicely paced shows.

It's a running joke between my brother and I that it's not a real SP show if he doesn't pull out at least one of those.


Machina era is really when the cracks started to show in Billy's songwriting

Shit like Crying Tree of Mercury, GATGC, HMM, Sacred, etc...no way would those make SD or MCIS

Is this D'arcy's contribution to the band? Then okay that's pretty solid

 
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Old 01-08-2015, 12:45 AM   #363
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If you haven't basically spent the last decade on this board, never heard Mashed Potatoes, or basically were never heavily into digging into SP bootleg demo material, the reissues are probably pretty mind-bogglingly awesome all around. Out of them all, I pretty much only use the remastered Gish and MCIS for when I want to play the album nowadays; I think they're the only real improvements. SD and Adore don't sound much different at all to my ears, and I've never thought they needed remastering at all.

TAFH is a mixed bag; nothing there sounds particularly different to me, but aside from the D'arcy vox I don't think they screwed the pooch on it too badly (unlike PI and its host of shit). Worth my while for the extra tracks and Dark Globe CD.

And I'm gonna go ahead and hope they'll keep the M1 BSBT, it's my preferred version.

 
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Old 01-08-2015, 12:50 AM   #364
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what are the realistic chances will see the whole thing - not bonus tracks, but MI and MII in whatever new order - on vinyl?

I've pretty much given up on that wish, since the Adore vinyl reissue was basically a joke.
booklet/artwork with the Machina vinyl set would be nice, too, but we probably won't get that, either.

 
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Old 01-08-2015, 01:27 AM   #365
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http://www.smashingpumpkinsnexus.com...3-3E6987E6D691

He did say they'd 'probably offer this set as a reissue amongst other materials'. If he's even looking at doing a wide release of the original vinyl versions, I really can't see him not putting out the resequenced version too considering how much he's hyped it up.

 
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Old 01-08-2015, 01:52 AM   #366
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http://www.smashingpumpkinsnexus.com...3-3E6987E6D691

He did say they'd 'probably offer this set as a reissue amongst other materials'.
oh, I hadn't read that.


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I really can't see him not putting out the resequenced version too considering how much he's hyped it up.
at this point I believe it when I see it, no matter what he hyped up in the past.


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Transfers are almost complete of my 60 + 4-track demos tapes; and to that I plan on offering a multi-edition vinyl set which if I’m guessing correct will in the end have anywhere from 12 to 20 separate releases. So please do keep an eye out for those, as they’ll be releases this year.
[...]I’d anticipate the first release to come sometime in the next 2-3 months
August 2014.

 
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Old 01-08-2015, 01:55 AM   #367
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I've pretty much given up on that wish, since the Adore vinyl reissue was basically a joke.
why do you say this
i haven't heard the reissue vinyl myself, but what was wrong with it?

 
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Old 01-08-2015, 01:59 AM   #368
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no no, it sound justs fine, nothing wrong with it, but there is harldy any difference to the original vinyl release of Adore.
the different packaging looks nice, but no additional artwork or booklet. not worth buying if you already had Adore on vinyl, in other words. kind of pointless to reissue that 2LP at all.

 
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Old 01-08-2015, 02:08 AM   #369
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guess I'm a release-pessimist now, I just wouldn't be that surprised if the Machina vinly release would be this all over again, with another cover art.


 
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Old 01-08-2015, 02:24 AM   #370
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no no, it sound justs fine, nothing wrong with it, but there is harldy any difference to the original vinyl release of Adore.
the different packaging looks nice, but no additional artwork or booklet. not worth buying if you already had Adore on vinyl, in other words. kind of pointless to reissue that 2LP at all.
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i thought the vinyl part of the adore reissue was mostly just to get that product back on the market, to be honest

not sure entirely how rare it was originally, pre-reissue but long enough after '98 for 'em not to be new in stores anymore, but i know it was at least considerably easier to find than mcis, and much less expensive.

still, the only sp vinyl i'd really seen pre-all these reissues was sd

 
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If you haven't basically spent the last decade on this board, never heard Mashed Potatoes, or basically were never heavily into digging into SP bootleg demo material, the reissues are probably pretty mind-bogglingly awesome all around.
Or they'd be boring as hell to you if you didn't already care enough to do that

I can't imagine people who listens to BWBW and 1979 sometimes giving a fuck about Rotten Apples or Jesus Loves His Babies

 
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Old 01-08-2015, 02:45 AM   #372
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that's a little much

i can see most people not caring about X.Y.U. (Take 11) or B-side (instrumental studio demo rough mix take 9) but Rotten Apples is a good song, hardcore fan or not

 
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Old 01-08-2015, 09:05 AM   #373
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Plot twist: Billy re-records all the material he thinks should be the double album, changes everything to not be "arty" anymore, with jeff and a drum machine...

 
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Old 01-08-2015, 12:19 PM   #374
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listened to Machina 1 all the way through last week, for the first time in years.

it starts really strong, and i like almost everything on it, but it just goes on and on and on..


i really think it was clearly meant to be a double album and will be much improved in a new sequence.

 
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Old 01-08-2015, 07:01 PM   #375
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I agree.

 
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Old 01-08-2015, 07:03 PM   #376
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It will be interesting to finally see how the original sequence turns out.

I'm excite

 
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Old 01-08-2015, 07:10 PM   #377
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Do we know roughly when this will be released? I can't be bothered to scroll the whole thread

 
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Old 01-08-2015, 07:12 PM   #378
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Sometime this year. Probs fall or winter.

 
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Old 01-08-2015, 07:15 PM   #379
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Old 01-08-2015, 08:15 PM   #382
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christmas if i were a betting man

 
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Old 01-08-2015, 08:37 PM   #383
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taste my saliva
No, taste mine.

When Machina came out, it was my theme album when I was diagnosed with Bipolar I. When I went to the psych ward I quoted the "Everlasting Gaze."

Now I'm 30, and am on an extended care ward. I'm back in the loony ben, and ready for Love.

Anyway, I feel the reissue will be my theme for my recovery and triumphant return into the community. I think I'll get out around Christmas. Ima make out to "Stand Inside Your Love." Again. But this time the song's gonna sound better!

 
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Old 01-09-2015, 01:26 AM   #384
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please don't, i like to watch


 
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No news is good news?

 
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Old 01-09-2015, 04:23 AM   #386
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Before the MACHINA-remaster comes out, we'll get five limited, signed(!) vinyl pressings of Billy's eighties cassette-masters demonstrating the evolution of his musical ingenuity, exclusively distributed by his tea shop.

 
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Shit like Crying Tree of Mercury, GATGC, HMM, Sacred, etc...no way would those make SD or MCIS
i don't, have never & will never get what people's deal with this track is, btw, one of my favorites from the album

 
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Phew - how have I never seen that 1/24/00 XYU? Pretty damn rad.

 
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i don't, have never & will never get what people's deal with this track is, btw, one of my favorites from the album

Which song?

 
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