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10-17-2018, 01:00 AM | #61 |
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this plus no censorship. it's the most honest community of fans. people argue here over stupid shit, but point is, we can
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10-17-2018, 02:48 AM | #62 |
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Netphoria was positive around Arising! Tour, but then key events led us down this path.
Machina production disappointed some, but most were still positive about the band. D'arcy leaving, but the board liked Auf Der Maur. M2 and the split announcement / Metro show / Greatest Hits was a fairly positive time. Early Zwan was positive. MSTOTS clipping, Honestly and the meltdown of Zwan didn't go down well. TFE got a muted response but still vaguely positive. Around this point, Billy started saying shit and sounding like an arsehole. Folks liked Tarantula and ZG initially, but that went sour pretty quickly. Billy's production and vocal style went down the toilet. The 20th anniversary shows really damaged him. Attacking former band mates in the media, even Jimmy after he left. Shitting on a fan who asked for 1979 after the show. At this point Bill had a lot of bad blood here, and it seemed he was actually aware of it and started shit-talking Netphoria as "not real fans". Then he launched Teargarden which was produced like shit and he never completed. Recruited Mike Byrne. Commented he'd made one of his best albums but never released it. Became friends with Monte and formed the SPRC, announced reissues. Did a cruise. Continued to be a dick in interviews. News story surface from co-workers, bands portraying Corgan as a abusive twat. The pedal-gate scandal. Seemed more interested in tea and wrestling. Released Oceania to a mediocre response. Abandoned more projects. Paused the reissues. Did a weird performance of A Broken Heart with some wrestlers. Threw Mike Byrne and Nicole under a bus. Started hanging out on Alex Jones' Infowars. People & Their Cars.com Released MTAE - preceded by a cringe-worthy blog and was a low-effort misconceived 2-part album. Had a kid and toured America being a douchebag. Abandoned Day For Night. Reformed the Pumpkins without D'arcy scandal. etc. etc. Huge dick to fans on Instagram. Current tour. Twenty years in a nutshell. Last edited by VoxUpDoc : 10-17-2018 at 04:33 PM. |
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10-17-2018, 03:49 AM | #63 |
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of course I care. I already said I have an everlasting curiosity with what is happening with Bill because of the impact his old music had on me. that doesn't mean I secretly love his awful output.
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10-17-2018, 04:10 AM | #64 |
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Been here since 1999? maybe 2000
2000 was the best year to be an SP fan The signings, Resume The Pose, Summersault, Jay Leno, The United Center, Metro.. Even Zwan beginnings was a good time. It was pretty racist &misogynistic then.. Some posters unfortunately still keep that going. People showing nudes..that in retrospect is not good & sadly may still be on my hard drive some where. GOATSE & LEMON PARTY... clicking on a thread about some leaked new song..only to see a leaking anus. LEET AS FUCK And I remember being made fun of in the IAGW DVD.. |
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10-17-2018, 04:20 AM | #65 |
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I originally joined in late 1998 under a different name, I remember the Halloween show and the debut of Cash Car Star being discussed. My first post was in a thread about favourite guitar solos (I think).
The place was your average fan board for the time back then, you had the negative types and trolls around but the general atmosphere was positive towards the band. Things were gradually going more sour in 2000 following D'Arcy's departure, and it's only gotten worse from there. I was here for the triple troll, the 2000 signings, the breakup and D'Arcy leaving. Hell I think I'm the only person to remember the official site webmaster losing their shit and spamming the mailing list with love letters to Billy before declaring that they quit! I also remember 1nclud3 being banned (it was because people could format their posts to break the threads). I still have the MP3 of Tear from 2000 (radio broadcast) saved, it was burned onto a data disc and had the original creation date of the day after. I think I have some old dodgy meme pictures saved from the early 2000s on an old HDD, I'll go dig them up if people are interested (mostly offtopic crap though, stuff like the gifs DeviousJ used to create... is he still around?) |
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10-17-2018, 04:39 AM | #66 |
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Oh and when Netphoria was down going to Blamo was the thing to do.. They were Sad Machines before Sad Machines..Blamo2:Electric Boogaloo
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10-17-2018, 05:15 AM | #67 |
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I've had a few usernames over the years, this is the longest running one I've had. I was certainly here in the 90s while I was at uni, I cant remember the exact year I started on here but I recall using the internet for the first time in January 1995 and was finding Pumpkins websites back then.
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10-17-2018, 05:22 AM | #68 |
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Aww, I felt a bit of sadness there thinking about Blamo. It was kind of the kids pool/training pool before you graduated to Netphoria. That was a great little community.
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10-17-2018, 05:50 AM | #69 | ||
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there was some html code that people used to crash threads and it really fucked with the board. it included the word include so by banning that word you couldn't crash the board also include INCLUDE include include include |
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10-17-2018, 06:12 AM | #70 |
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Before the negativity, with the right ears, you could hear the gentle sound of windfucker on the breeze.
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10-17-2018, 06:30 AM | #71 | |
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Not sure why it shut down though |
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10-17-2018, 06:52 AM | #72 | |
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True that
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This pretty well sums up why there´s so much hate and negativity about bollyboy HE is still a dick insulting fans randomly. But most of it he had no real success with his shitty albums with shitty lyrics, shitty vocals and shitty mixes in the last 20 years. reading the shiny review here gives me hope that people will shit on it like hell. i come here cause it´s funny and you can say what you think. ps: people would be way more positive if billy was nicer to fans around the globe. |
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10-17-2018, 06:54 AM | #73 |
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can really feel the presence of your nazi blood through your posts
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10-17-2018, 07:34 AM | #74 | |
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Yeah I was a member of this board back in 2007 because I was really excited about the forthcoming reunion album (ah, remember what it was like to have hope?). I remember someone posting a link they said was to the new single (Tarantula) and like an idiot, I immediately clicked on it. It opened a video of a bunch 80-year-old men sucking each other’s dicks. Mind you, this happened while I was at work. Luckily I was able to close the video really fast before anyone saw but my God, that was awful. |
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10-17-2018, 07:52 AM | #75 |
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lemonparty!
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10-17-2018, 09:15 AM | #76 | |
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10-17-2018, 09:35 AM | #77 |
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Come to think of it, I must have been lurking around here during the solo album. I remember it turning into a show-by-show fight between him and the fans. And people liking the live non-album tracks more than the actual tracks. That was when I thought that Billy would "get it together" with the next release... lol
I do remember it being very negative here and it seeming like everyone was always attacking one another and trying to out do one another with cheap insults. Strange to think that the board was excited for music before Machina and that that was considered a let down. Oh what disappointments were still to come... |
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10-17-2018, 09:42 AM | #78 |
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i remember the LOUD AT ANY VOLUME debacle during msots.
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10-17-2018, 10:27 AM | #79 |
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The purple board was better.
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10-17-2018, 10:44 AM | #80 |
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10-17-2018, 10:50 AM | #81 | |
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That's the one!
Lemonparty, goatse...surprised nobody's mentioned Tubgirl yet so there's what I considered the trifecta of horror back in the day. Quote:
But MTaE specifically disappoints me because it comes across as a very transparent attempt to catch mainstream attention by angling for a Coldplay sound and current music trends by creating a short, poppy, digestible, un-challenging work without any palpable amount of effort put into it: bite-size paint-by-numbers SP with no lyrical depth. I know BC can do better, always contended he could, and to see him throw out a work that reeked of desperation was as disappointing as it was sad. There's tapping into current tastes and trends to inform your output - I remember well the comparisons between Machina and the Nu-metal sound - and there's following along with nothing of your own to offer, and that's what MTaE feels like to me. I don't like the term "sell-out" and never have. I don't give a shit what sound a band turns to if that's where their muse takes them. MTaE didn't feel earnest, and coming from a band that already put out a shirt back in in 1993 or so admitting they "sold out", I never thought Bill actually really did in the truest sense of the term until he put that album out. I'll go to bat for half of ZG, about half of Oceania, and one or two tracks off TG. But fuck MTaE forever. For all the grief it's caused, I always respected Bill for a lot for his stubborn "my way or the highway" attitude, but that album was him throwing his hands up in the air in a desperate bid for some kind of attention. I'm convinced he's secretly ashamed of it, and it's the real reason he shitcanned Day For Night - it was going to be more of the same and he saw it was getting him nowhere. And maybe he knew he could do better. And I'm specifically here because : A) This is basically the last standing big place with SP history and it feels proper to be a part of it B) There is a sense of community on a message board not matched by the likes of Reddit C) Negativity and trolling aside I enjoy discussing SP with people I know have been longtime fans and reading a wide array of diverse opinions. D) Hot leeks yo E) I'm also not going to be part of any fucking community that censors criticism and encourages sycophancy. I don't give a shit what the Sad Machines members do with their lives but I'd rather not hang around where love for a band outweighs the capacity for analysis, discussion and informed interpretation. There is no such thing as a band with a flawless discography (cue the Boris joke here). F) There are really good people here and I like interacting with them. Obvs. G) For some reason I do still want to believe the band is capable of putting out good stuff again. There are occasions like Silvery Sometimes where I feel I'm justified in that. |
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10-17-2018, 11:04 AM | #82 | |
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DeviousJ stopped posting years and years ago and I will never stop praying for his safe return, so anything he made you can dig up would be a blessing to the board |
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10-17-2018, 11:21 AM | #83 | |
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10-17-2018, 11:24 AM | #84 | |
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LOL well I stumbled upon Netphoria bc I had an old Geocities page with like a "101 reasons James is cooler than Billy" thing and someone alerted me that there was a thread about it. I joined in and stuck around. Before Netpho, I mostly just chatted at smashing-pumpkins.net |
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10-17-2018, 11:29 AM | #85 |
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10-17-2018, 11:33 AM | #86 |
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Lars Ulrich
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10-17-2018, 11:37 AM | #87 |
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[quote=smashingjj;4472663]you need to check out this thread, surprisingly enough some of the old images are still there:
... Jesus Christ, you got me, you actually got me Last edited by smashingjj : 10-17-2018 at 11:43 AM. |
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10-17-2018, 11:38 AM | #88 |
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10-17-2018, 11:42 AM | #89 |
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First signed up in 99, I think. Never posted (way too self-conscious to unleash Not-English on native speakers), but printed whatever I figured was worth keeping. Tabs, all lyrics, some articles. I have that binder to this day, it keeps moving with me from country to country, can't bring myself to throw it away.
Don't remember my reasoning for highlighting lyrics back then. https://i.imgur.com/f0eQW3E.jpg?1 |
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10-17-2018, 12:33 PM | #90 |
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