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Old 02-11-2015, 02:03 AM   #121
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i don't see the point in trying to find a "concensus band" for a message board devoted to a band (that isn't radiohead, that would be a different case. you think people hate the pumpkins here? sheeeitey!) but i mean joy division sorta stuck out to me as being prob the best 1 from what i've seen in my humble 4 or so months here so far

or well, radiohead

 
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Old 02-11-2015, 02:13 AM   #122
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I don't mean that literally, but I feel Punk is a much more left-brained literate music than Jazz which isn't really trying to convey ideas, just emotions
wow, you are off base there. You realize Jazz is taking music theory to it's uttermost limits, right? It's totally cerebral as a pre-requisite to be able to play anything jazz oriented.

 
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Old 02-11-2015, 02:47 AM   #123
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Yes, ugh, that's the point

 
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Old 02-11-2015, 02:50 AM   #124
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nah he's right that's a profoundly stupid thing to say

it's so stupid that the opposite is true

 
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Old 02-11-2015, 02:51 AM   #125
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i don't see the point in trying to find a "concensus band" for a message board devoted to a band (that isn't radiohead, that would be a different case. you think people hate the pumpkins here? sheeeitey!) but i mean joy division sorta stuck out to me as being prob the best 1 from what i've seen in my humble 4 or so months here so far

or well, radiohead
yeah, jesus. even though i'm tired of them nobody's gonna stand up and go RADIOHEAD SUCKS

except for fuzzy of course

 
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Old 02-11-2015, 02:57 AM   #126
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Left brained type music doesn't even consider theory and as a result uses very basic theory

Jazz is all about theory and so they can push it to its limits

 
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Old 02-11-2015, 02:59 AM   #127
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Fugazi seems like a satisfactory answer.

What about Talking Heads?
I'm okay with either of these

 
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Old 02-11-2015, 03:01 AM   #128
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Left brained type music doesn't even consider theory and as a result uses very basic theory

Jazz is all about theory and so they can push it to its limits
stop fucking saying dumb shit

 
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Old 02-11-2015, 03:02 AM   #129
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that's completely fucked & you've just PROVEN you don't know what you're talking about, mano

left-brained, objective music doesn't consider theory? that's the most contradictory thing you could post on the subject

 
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Old 02-11-2015, 03:02 AM   #130
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Fuck off

But yeah you guys are right

 
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Old 02-11-2015, 03:03 AM   #131
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like what, is math as a subject "arty" now as well? jeez, where in the hell are you even coming from with this?

 
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Old 02-11-2015, 03:04 AM   #132
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I'm meaning to say right brain Durrr

 
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Old 02-11-2015, 03:04 AM   #133
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like what, is math as a subject "arty" now as well? jeez, where in the hell are you even coming from with this?
a position of near total ignorance

 
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Old 02-11-2015, 03:07 AM   #134
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I'm meaning to say left brain Durrr
uh, you are saying left-brain, hence the posting of this stuff

 
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Old 02-11-2015, 03:08 AM   #135
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not to mention you're using the whole "left brain vs. right brain" myth, which is total pseudoscience.

 
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No I confused left brained and right brained

So yeah, I mean the complete opposite.

I will commit seppuku now

 
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Old 02-11-2015, 03:08 AM   #137
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not to mention you're using the whole "left brain vs. right brain" myth, which is total pseudoscience.
As a metaphor that I fucked up

 
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Old 02-11-2015, 03:10 AM   #138
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well that certainly doesn't help in the discussing of a thing! in any case i think it's a pretty big misstep to try and class any music as totally "left or right brained" in the first place

going back to try and reverse your posts may make things read quite a bit differently but still

 
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Old 02-11-2015, 03:10 AM   #139
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you're back pedaling

 
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Old 02-11-2015, 03:12 AM   #140
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My point was disagreeing with the notion that Jazz is the equivalent to literature in music

 
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Old 02-11-2015, 03:14 AM   #141
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you're back pedaling
I'm correcting my mistake about which side of the brain but I thought everyone knew that was pseudoscience by now and only used as a metaphor to describe concept thinking VS Concrete thinking

 
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Old 02-11-2015, 03:15 AM   #142
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you are mixing metaphors, and clearly don't know what anything is

 
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Old 02-11-2015, 03:16 AM   #143
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No

 
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Old 02-11-2015, 03:17 AM   #144
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don't smother d.o.g. with concepts like metaphors & analogies all at once, he can hardly read our posts as is

p.s. i'd say jazz was more like literature than math, at least e.e. cummings type literature where you didn't know what was going to happen, & any & all rules you once thought you knew could be broken by the next line

i've always loved it for that

 
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Old 02-11-2015, 03:19 AM   #145
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Mostly I just get butthurt by Jazz and Classical fans implying(or outright saying) that if it's not purely instrumental and theory based then it's all equally pleb pop music

 
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yo mals, did you get my PM?

take me off ignore

 
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Old 02-11-2015, 03:21 AM   #147
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Mostly I just get butthurt by Jazz and Classical fans implying(or outright saying) that if it's not purely instrumental and theory based then it's all equally pleb pop music
i'm more of a "gee those edm folk sure can't get over themselves when it comes to other artists incorporating elements from their 'field of sonics'" kind of guy

 
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Old 02-11-2015, 03:21 AM   #148
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Like post-punk is the genre for bookworms. Every major name in the game started out wanting to be a writer, coming at music from a place of literature.

 
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Old 02-11-2015, 03:32 AM   #149
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some do that, perhaps, but fuck post-punk in general always sounded way more precise (in a way mathematical/calculated?) to me than any jazz i've ever listened to

 
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Old 02-11-2015, 03:37 AM   #150
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It's just simpler while Jazz is more complex

I go to this Jazz show once almost every week

 
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